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FIJIFan
09-18-2008, 04:42 PM
I guess all the arguments in R&P will be moot if this happens!

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/091908dntexbarrballot.8b61581c.html

Libertarian Bob Barr moves to keep Obama, McCain off Texas ballot 1:29 PM CT

01:30 PM CDT on Thursday, September 18, 2008

By CHRISTY HOPPE / The Dallas Morning News
choppe@dallasnews.com (choppe@dallasnews.com)
AUSTIN – Libertarian presidential candidate Bob Barr is forcing a legal showdown in the Texas Supreme Court to keep the names of Barack Obama and John McCain off the November ballot.
The issue is whether both parties missed a state deadline to certify the names of their presidential and vice presidential candidates for the ballot. The attorney general is arguing the law was followed and that the secretary of state has discretion on the ballot and its appearance.
Mr. Barr personally filed an emergency request before the court on Thursday, asking that the state be ordered not to mail ballots overseas this weekend until the issue is legally resolved.
“We are here today to establish very clearly that there is at least one political party out there that stands for the rule of law,” said Mr. Barr, a former Republican congressman from Georgia who was a leader in the Bill Clinton impeachment.
The Libertarians are contending that the Democratic and Republican nominees are disqualified from appearing on the ballot because they missed the state’s Aug. 26 deadline to certify candidates. During the national conventions, Mr. Obama was not voted as the nominee until Aug. 27 and Mr. McCain claimed the GOP nomination on Sept. 3.
No one can legally certify something that has not yet happened, Mr. Barr argued. In addition, Sarah Palin was not named to the GOP ticket until Aug. 29 and so it would be impossible to certify her name by the deadline.
The Libertarians claim that both major parties knew of the late conventions and did not go to either the Legislature or the courts to seek a remedy.
The Supreme Court has refused to dismiss the case outright and has asked all parties to file their response to the lawsuit by Monday.
Part of the legal basis for the suit is Bush vs. Gore, by which the U.S. Supreme Court held that “the clearly expressed intent of the legislature must prevail,” and that election laws must be uniformly applied and interpreted.
“Sound familiar Mr. Bush? Sound familiar Republicans?” Mr. Barr said, adding that the state law is unambiguous.
“The Libertarian Party like other parties and independent candidates always face a struggle to get on the ballot and are sometimes excluded from the ballot for the most minor of details,” said state party chairman Patrick Dixon. “We may not like the rules, but we have to play by them.”
Both the Democrats and the Republicans said they have taken the necessary steps to have their candidates on the ballot.
“Quite frankly, I find it very ironic that those in the Libertarian Party, who have in the past been champions of ballot access, are now making attempts to limit that access here in Texas,” said Democratic Party chairman Boyd Richie.
“It is clear this is a politically motivated stunt by Bob Barr and his party, and a desperate attempt by a candidate to obtain media coverage,” he said.

atxtraveler
09-18-2008, 04:54 PM
I guess all the arguments in R&P will be moot if this happens!

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/091908dntexbarrballot.8b61581c.html

Libertarian Bob Barr moves to keep Obama, McCain off Texas ballot 1:29 PM CT

01:30 PM CDT on Thursday, September 18, 2008

By CHRISTY HOPPE / The Dallas Morning News
choppe@dallasnews.com (choppe@dallasnews.com)
AUSTIN – Libertarian presidential candidate Bob Barr is forcing a legal showdown in the Texas Supreme Court to keep the names of Barack Obama and John McCain off the November ballot.
The issue is whether both parties missed a state deadline to certify the names of their presidential and vice presidential candidates for the ballot. The attorney general is arguing the law was followed and that the secretary of state has discretion on the ballot and its appearance.
Mr. Barr personally filed an emergency request before the court on Thursday, asking that the state be ordered not to mail ballots overseas this weekend until the issue is legally resolved.
“We are here today to establish very clearly that there is at least one political party out there that stands for the rule of law,” said Mr. Barr, a former Republican congressman from Georgia who was a leader in the Bill Clinton impeachment.
The Libertarians are contending that the Democratic and Republican nominees are disqualified from appearing on the ballot because they missed the state’s Aug. 26 deadline to certify candidates. During the national conventions, Mr. Obama was not voted as the nominee until Aug. 27 and Mr. McCain claimed the GOP nomination on Sept. 3.
No one can legally certify something that has not yet happened, Mr. Barr argued. In addition, Sarah Palin was not named to the GOP ticket until Aug. 29 and so it would be impossible to certify her name by the deadline.
The Libertarians claim that both major parties knew of the late conventions and did not go to either the Legislature or the courts to seek a remedy.
The Supreme Court has refused to dismiss the case outright and has asked all parties to file their response to the lawsuit by Monday.
Part of the legal basis for the suit is Bush vs. Gore, by which the U.S. Supreme Court held that “the clearly expressed intent of the legislature must prevail,” and that election laws must be uniformly applied and interpreted.
“Sound familiar Mr. Bush? Sound familiar Republicans?” Mr. Barr said, adding that the state law is unambiguous.
“The Libertarian Party like other parties and independent candidates always face a struggle to get on the ballot and are sometimes excluded from the ballot for the most minor of details,” said state party chairman Patrick Dixon. “We may not like the rules, but we have to play by them.”
Both the Democrats and the Republicans said they have taken the necessary steps to have their candidates on the ballot.
“Quite frankly, I find it very ironic that those in the Libertarian Party, who have in the past been champions of ballot access, are now making attempts to limit that access here in Texas,” said Democratic Party chairman Boyd Richie.
“It is clear this is a politically motivated stunt by Bob Barr and his party, and a desperate attempt by a candidate to obtain media coverage,” he said.

Thank you Bob Barr for single handedly "Peroting" your Republican party. If Texas is left off the ballot in Texas, you can welcome in your first Muslim President of the United States.

nein51
09-18-2008, 04:57 PM
Stunt

ChipOC
09-18-2008, 05:04 PM
Thank you Bob Barr for single handedly "Peroting" your Republican party. If Texas is left off the ballot in Texas, you can welcome in your first Muslim President of the United States.
I wasn't aware there was a Muslim running?

FIJIFan
09-18-2008, 07:51 PM
I wasn't aware there was a Muslim running?

Obama...he is the democrat...so it doesnt really matter anyway!

ChipOC
09-18-2008, 10:30 PM
Obama...he is the democrat...so it doesnt really matter anyway!
Democrats have religion?

Texas Golfer
09-18-2008, 10:34 PM
Democrats have religion?

Sure they do. They pray to the Chairman of the DNC.

Limnos
09-18-2008, 10:53 PM
Sure they do. They pray to the Chairman of the DNC.
They should pray to God. Howard Dean is the DNC chair. God would never do this to a kitten or a child. And I doubt God totes a gun and a bong.

http://uglydemocrats.com/democrats/United-States/Howard-Dean/dean_kitten.jpg http://www.pagescapers.com/bait/images/dean_punch.jpg http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/R/4/dean_bong_gun.jpg

The Banterer
09-19-2008, 04:04 AM
Thank you Bob Barr for single handedly "Peroting" your Republican party. If Texas is left off the ballot in Texas, you can welcome in your first Muslim President of the United States.

Better than a drunkard who beats his wife.

FIJIFan
09-19-2008, 09:00 AM
Nice job Limnos! Are you responsible for the photo-shopping, or does the credit go elsewhere?

Bexar Fan
09-19-2008, 09:55 AM
Better than a drunkard who beats his wife.
Huh?

ChipOC
09-19-2008, 10:10 AM
sure they do. They pray to the chairman of the dnc.
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Banterer
09-19-2008, 03:56 PM
Huh?

Barack Obama is a Muslim. McCain is obviously Irish.

Texas Golfer
09-19-2008, 04:07 PM
Barack Obama is a Muslim. McCain is obviously Irish.

Even the town of Rock Ridge wants nothing to do with the Irish.

Limnos
09-19-2008, 04:59 PM
Nice job Limnos! Are you responsible for the photo-shopping, or does the credit go elsewhere?
I must give credit elsewhere. Just google Dean and click images. ;)
Even the town of Rock Ridge wants nothing to do with the Irish.

bwahahaha...greatest movie ever! Blazing away now....catch y'all later.

Texas Golfer
09-19-2008, 09:24 PM
bwahahaha...greatest movie ever! Blazing away now....catch y'all later.

Bring a lot of dove back for the tailgate.

FIJIFan
09-23-2008, 01:52 PM
well...we get to vote for them!

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/092408dnpolbarr.a4c90d35.html

AUSTIN — The Texas Supreme Court has denied Libertarian presidential candidate's Bob Barr attempt to keep the names John McCain and Barack Obama off the state's November ballot.

The court did not explain the reason for its decision Tuesday.

Mr. Barr, a former GOP congressman from Georgia, had argued in legal briefs that both major parties had failed to meet the state's Aug. 26 deadline for certifying their presidential candidates as they would appear on the Texas ballot.

Neither Mr. McCain nor Mr. Obama had been officially nominated by their party conventions by the deadline. And Sarah Palin had not yet been named to the GOP ticket.

But the Democratic and Republican state parties had filed official documents with the secretary of state stating their presumed presidential candidates. The Democrats also included Joe Biden's name and the Republicans said they would report back with the name of their vice presidential contender, which they did.

Mr. Barr and his party had asked the Supreme Court to order the secretary of state to remove the Republican and Democratic ticket from the general election ballot, saying the language of the law was clear and unambiguous. He also contended both major parties had ample opportunity to seek remedy from the Legislature or the courts to change the deadline after knowing when the national conventions would be held.

The attorney general, representing the secretary of state, had argued that the request by the Libertarians was without merit.
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