Cowboys vs. Redskins

[Texas Golfer]

Slow moving game in the first quarter.

[Texas Golfer]

Touchdown - Dallas! Cowboys 7, Redskins 0.

[Texas Golfer]

Touchdown - Washington. Cowboys 7, Redskins 7.

The DBs playing so far off the receivers. Campbell is merely picking the secondary apart.

[Texas Golfer]

The Cowboys are playing awful. They're falling down, jumping the snap, and just had a 30 yard punt.

[Texas Golfer]

Total yards this quarter: Wash. 122, Dal. 7.

[Texas Golfer]

Touchdown - Washington. Redskins 14, Cowboys 7.

It's been awhile since I've see the Cowboys look this awful.

[Texas Golfer]

Another 3 and out by Dallas followed by another lousy punt.

I appear to be talking to myself. I should seek help.

Do I need to start some alt-nicks to have someone to talk to?

[atxtraveler]

Ah, finally got to a TV.... go Boys!

[atxtraveler]

Do I need to start some alt-nicks to have someone to talk to?

I wouldn't.

[Texas Golfer]

How do you let a receiver of the quality of Santana Moss be all by himself all day. Already, in the first half, Moss has 125 yards on 6 catches.

Washington has almost 200 yards in the 2nd qtr to Dallas' 10.

[Texas Golfer]

I wouldn't.

You do know that I was being sarcastic?

[Texas Golfer]

Field Goal - Washington. Redskins 17, Cowboys 7.

That's 17 unanswered points for the Deadskins.

[Texas Golfer]

The Cowboys can't even get anything done on special teams. They have yet to get back to the 20 yard line.

This has been the worst quarter I've seen from the Cowboys on any side of the ball in many years.

[Texas Golfer]

Dallas just got their first 1st down of the second quarter after letting up 17 Redskin points.

[biggmatt24]

Dallas probably isn't looking as bad as San Diego...

Down 15-0 to Oakland at the half. Scoring is: FG, Safety, TD, XP, FG. One of everything.

[Texas Golfer]

The Cowboys kick a FG on the last play to bring it to within a TD at the half.

Redskins 17, Cowboys 10.

[Texas Golfer]

Touchdown - Dallas! Cowboys 17, Redskins 17.

The Cowboys looked much better on that drive than they have the whole game.

[Bigshot628]

great start to the second half, tie game now 17-17

[Bigshot628]

This has been the worst quarter I've seen from the Cowboys on any side of the ball in many years.

were you around from 99 till about 2004?

[Texas Golfer]

The Cowboy defense decided to take the day off.

[Texas Golfer]

were you around from 99 till about 2004?

I'd say that's many years.

[Texas Golfer]

Pathetic defense! Newman has been burned many times by Moss and he just missed a sure sack.

[Texas Golfer]

Field Goal - Washington. Redskins 20, Cowboys 17.

That's four consecutive scoring drives for the Redskins against this poorly playing Cowboy defense.

The Redskins had to settle for a FG after two touchdowns were called back because of penalties.

[Limnos]

This thread looks like TG post padding special. ;)

The Boys look awful today.

[Bigshot628]

Field Goal - Washington. Redskins 20, Cowboys 17.

That's four consecutive scoring drives for the Redskins against this poorly playing Cowboy defense.

The Redskins had to settle for a FG after two touchdowns were called back because of penalties.


we're playing awful and down by 3, why are you so upset? I agree the defense is getting exposed a bit, but be glad that our offense is going to give us a chance to win this.

[Limnos]

Romo/TO will get it back right here.


Baaaad pass Tony.

[Texas Golfer]

This thread looks like TG post padding special. ;)

The Boys look awful today.

I've been begging for someone to talk to. :(

[Limnos]

Sorry buddy. I am BUSY today and won't be online much. Just taking a break. I have the game on but I am working.

[Texas Golfer]

we're playing awful and down by 3, why are you so upset? I agree the defense is getting exposed a bit, but be glad that our offense is going to give us a chance to win this.

Because the Cowboys look absolutely horrible. And, now that we punted again, the Redskins can now score for the fifth consecutive possession and we've shown that we can't merely match scores and expect to win.

[Texas Golfer]

Sorry buddy. I am BUSY today and won't be online much. Just taking a break. I have the game on but I am working.

No problem, Pal. I was going to go to the club and watch it there but decided just to relax in my recliner.

[Bigshot628]

if this site had more members, we wouldn't be having 3 person conversations. I really want to know what's being done to get more members, cause this is really frustrating

[Texas Golfer]

Moss is getting behind Newman and Portis is slicing through out DL like they weren't even there.

[Texas Golfer]

if this site had more members, we wouldn't be having 3 person conversations. I really want to know what's being done to get more members, cause this is really frustrating

The site is a little more than a month old. It's a slow process and I still have faith.

[Bigshot628]

bout time the defense steps up

[Bigshot628]

wow, what a no-call

[Texas Golfer]

wow, what a no-call

The officials missed that obvious face mask and missed an obvious PI against Crayton earlier.

[Texas Golfer]

bout time the defense steps up

I agree. That's the best the defense has looked since the first quarter.

[Limnos]

ok guys. Sorry I cant stick it out but I am out. Bring home the Cowboys win!

[Texas Golfer]

I'm glad to see Springs and Smoot out for the time being. I hope they're okay but they've been killing us.

[Texas Golfer]

Nevermind. The rookie Horton comes in and intercepts a pass. Romo hasn't been sharp this game either.

[Bigshot628]

well, that was interesting

[Bigshot628]

our offense has pretty much abandoned the run game, and rightfully so, Barber hasn't produced very much at all, but I figured they'd give Felix Jones a shot before passing every down.

[Bigshot628]

defense keeping hope alive. insane no call on that false start

[Volunteer]

Well at least the defense held them to a field goal. It ain't looking good right now.

[Texas Golfer]

Obvious Pass Interference against the Redskins - no flag.
Obvious Face Mask against the Redskins - no flag.
Obvious False Start against the Redskins - no flag.

Even the commentators can't believe what's happening.

[Volunteer]

We better get a TD here or this thing might be over.

[Texas Golfer]

Field Goal - Washington. Redskins 23, Cowboys 17.

[Texas Golfer]

We better get a TD here or this thing might be over.

I'm afraid you're right, my friend.

[Texas Golfer]

The media hypes this game as a rivalry. The Redskins approach the game in such a mindset. The Cowboys seem to approach it as just another game.

[Volunteer]

The Cowboy's pass defense has looked suspect to me all year. The Redskins are really tearing the defense apart.

[Volunteer]

3 and out

[Bigshot628]

The media hypes this game as a rivalry. The Redskins approach the game in such a mindset. The Cowboys seem to approach it as just another game.

i always laugh at comments like this, as if you have a firm grip on the team's mindset as they approach the game. c'mon TG...

[Texas Golfer]

3 and out

Again. Romo is hitting only 59% of his passes today.

[Bigshot628]

i dont' know what's up with our run defense

[Texas Golfer]

i always laugh at comments like this, as if you have a firm grip on the team's mindset as they approach the game. c'mon TG...

Having lived in D.C. and in Dallas, I can remember the intensity of years past. My brother still lives in D.C. The Redskins still have that intensity.

The joke in Washington, for many years, was that a 2-14 record was okay as long as the two wins were against the Cowboys.

All week long this week in Washington, all the talk (not on politics) have been on this game. Not so much in Dallas. And you can see I'm right by the intensity and emotion on the field.

[Volunteer]

I'm out guys. Stick a fork in the Cowboys for this game.

[Texas Golfer]

The Redskins use half of the 4th qtr on this one drive that ended with yet another FG.

Redskins 26, Cowboys 17

The Cowboys were outplayed on both sides of the line of scrimmage today. Both the OL and the DL were absolutely mauled today.

I'd like to see more emotion from Wade Phillips. He looks like he doesn't care that his team looked awful today.

[Bigshot628]

Having lived in D.C. and in Dallas, I can remember the intensity of years past. My brother still lives in D.C. The Redskins still have that intensity.

The joke in Washington, for many years, was that a 2-14 record was okay as long as the two wins were against the Cowboys.

All week long this week in Washington, all the talk (not on politics) have been on this game. Not so much in Dallas. And you can see I'm right by the intensity and emotion on the field.

so you're talking about the hype of the game by the fans and the local media?

The emotion on the field currently doesn't have much to do with their mindset coming into the game. I'm pretty sure they're aware of the importance of a divisional game in what is pretty much the best division in football.

[Texas Golfer]

That's the sixth dropped pass from T.O. today.

[Texas Golfer]

so you're talking about the hype of the game by the fans and the local media?

The emotion on the field currently doesn't have much to do with their mindset coming into the game. I'm pretty sure they're aware of the importance of a divisional game in what is pretty much the best division in football.

Knowing the importance of the game in relation to standings is not the same as the emotion involved with rivalries.

I can almost guarantee you that the Redskins aren't looking at this game as to their standing in the division. They want to win every game. The want this win more than any.

[biggmatt24]

Punch it in boys.

[biggmatt24]

and thank you

[Texas Golfer]

Touchdown - Dallas! Redskins 26, Cowboys 24. 1:42 left in the game.

[Texas Golfer]

An interview with Matt Bryant follows the game.

[Bigshot628]

how does a wide receiver drop that?

[Texas Golfer]

Hurd let the onside kick slip right through his hands! :cursing: Game over.

[Texas Golfer]

how does a wide receiver drop that?

Is it unreasonable to expect people who get paid millions of dollars to catch footballs to ... I don't know ... catch a football?

[Bigshot628]

Knowing the importance of the game in relation to standings is not the same as the emotion involved with rivalries.

I can almost guarantee you that the Redskins aren't looking at this game as to their standing in the division. They want to win every game. The want this win more than any.

you can't really guarantee anything unless you can prove that you are directly affiliated with the team, if you aren't, from there it's just speculation.

This is Zorn's first game against Dallas and he admittedly said that he doesn't know much about the rivalry, so spare me the talk of emotions involved with rivalries.

Game over, i'm out.

[Texas Golfer]

Now comes the dreaded phone call from my brother in D. C.

[Texas Golfer]

you can't really guarantee anything unless you can prove that you are directly affiliated with the team, if you aren't, from there it's just speculation.

This is Zorn's first game against Dallas and he admittedly said that he doesn't know much about the rivalry, so spare me the talk of emotions involved with rivalries.

Game over, i'm out.

Are you trying to tell me that, although this is Briles first year in Waco as is several of his players, that they don't want to beat A&M more than ISU?

I've been involved with this game long before you were born but you can believe what you choose to believe. I really don't mind.

[Texas Golfer]

Thank you, Howie Long, for confirming my point about the rivalry from the Washington perspective.

[atxtraveler]

That's the sixth dropped pass from T.O. today.
Just give him the damn ball.

how does a wide receiver drop that?
Just give him the damn ball.

Is it unreasonable to expect people who get paid millions of dollars to catch footballs to ... I don't know ... catch a football?
He might be on suicide watch.

[Bigshot628]

Are you trying to tell me that, although this is Briles first year in Waco as is several of his players, that they don't want to beat A&M more than ISU?

I've been involved with this game long before you were born but you can believe what you choose to believe. I really don't mind.

are you really comparing college football rivalries to professional rivalries?

[Volunteer]

The Cowboys were flat today. They got beat by a team that was simply better than they were today. The Redskins played better on defense, offense and special teams. You usually win when you play like that.

The Cowboys have all the talent in the world, but they need to get their heads out of their butts. The NFC East is tough. The Cowboys are going to have to do more than simply "show up" if they want to win it.

[nein51]

Cowboys still have numerous problems; the defense is not good, Romo has to improve his decision making (especially when to throw it away and when to take a sack and they have a tougher schedule. They are a playoff team but without fixing the D they arent going to win the division or go to the SB.

[Limnos]

are you really comparing college football rivalries to professional rivalries?

He's right on this one amigo. Zorn is full of crap if he thinks anyone is going to actually believe that he is not aware of this rivalry. Those guys would rather beat the Cowboys than anyone else and some said so in the post game. He's certainly correct about our team perspective and i know that from being there.

[Bigshot628]

some of you make my head hurt. they had a bad game, did you really expect to go undefeated? Of course this team has it's problems, but don't let the wheels fall off just cause we lose one game. Tap the brakes, get ready to bounce back against Cincy.

We played an AWFUL game and lost by 2, and if not for Sam Hurd letting the ball slip through his fingers, I have a feeling we'd be sittin on a W right now. You all went to Baylor, you know what a moral victory is. If this team plays the next couple of weeks the way it did today, then ok, time to be concerned. But honestly, look around the league... who are you afraid of? Every team has it's problems. Hell, look at Philly tonight.

[Bigshot628]

He's right on this one amigo. Zorn is full of crap if he thinks anyone is going to actually believe that he is not aware of this rivalry. Those guys would rather beat the Cowboys than anyone else and some said so in the post game. He's certainly correct about our team perspective and i know that from being there.

it's a losers mentality if they only want to beat the Cowboys and not care about any other game. I would lose to the Redskins everytime as long as we were winning Super Bowls. How much do Dallas fans laugh at Houston when they treat the game as if it were the Super Bowl.

Would you rather Baylor beat the #1 team in the country, or go to a bowl game? I don't give a **** about one game, look at the big picture. Again, did you really expect to get through this season without any blemishes?

[Texas Golfer]

some of you make my head hurt. they had a bad game, did you really expect to go undefeated? Of course this team has it's problems, but don't let the wheels fall off just cause we lose one game. Tap the brakes, get ready to bounce back against Cincy.

We played an AWFUL game and lost by 2, and if not for Sam Hurd letting the ball slip through his fingers, I have a feeling we'd be sittin on a W right now. You all went to Baylor, you know what a moral victory is. If this team plays the next couple of weeks the way it did today, then ok, time to be concerned. But honestly, look around the league... who are you afraid of? Every team has it's problems. Hell, look at Philly tonight.

Even in games I really don't care about, I'll pick one team that I'd like to win to make the game interesting. Why watch if you don't intend to get somewhat invested?

Nobody is calling it a season but if we don't get excited when they play well and get upset when they play poorly, why watch the game at all?

[Texas Golfer]

it's a losers mentality if they only want to beat the Cowboys and not care about any other game. I would lose to the Redskins everytime as long as we were winning Super Bowls. How much do Dallas fans laugh at Houston when they treat the game as if it were the Super Bowl.

Would you rather Baylor beat the #1 team in the country, or go to a bowl game? I don't give a **** about one game, look at the big picture. Again, did you really expect to get through this season without any blemishes?

Biggy, perhaps you're just too young to understand this rivalry. I get it. You don't understand and that's okay. But don't say there isn't one because no lifelong Cowboy fan or Redskin fan will agree with you.

I remeber watching the Cowboy/Redskin game in Korea (tape delayed) with my boss. We had a ton of money on the game. The Redskins jumped into a 34-0 lead and Dallas came back to win 35-34. I wasn't worried about him retaliating with crap assignments (I was already getting those). I wasn't worried that he wouldn't pay (he had a reputation to maintain). I was worried about getting fragged (grenade thrown under my bunk). Redskins fans HATE Cowboy fans!!! They have backed then and they do today.

[Texas Golfer]

some of you make my head hurt. they had a bad game, did you really expect to go undefeated? Of course this team has it's problems, but don't let the wheels fall off just cause we lose one game. Tap the brakes, get ready to bounce back against Cincy.

We played an AWFUL game and lost by 2, and if not for Sam Hurd letting the ball slip through his fingers, I have a feeling we'd be sittin on a W right now. You all went to Baylor, you know what a moral victory is. If this team plays the next couple of weeks the way it did today, then ok, time to be concerned. But honestly, look around the league... who are you afraid of? Every team has it's problems. Hell, look at Philly tonight.

You're speaking from a place that is generated from a position in your head. Fans and their rivalries are feeling their emotions from a place that is generated from the heart. We all know logic is a matter of the head where feelings are a matter of the heart. You're trying to use the reason from you head to tell people they don't have those feelings in their hearts and they'll tell you you're wrong every time. Me, I usually get my warm sensations from a the vicinity near the crotch.

[Bigshot628]

Biggy, perhaps you're just too young to understand this rivalry. I get it. You don't understand and that's okay. But don't say there isn't one because no lifelong Cowboy fan or Redskin fan will agree with you.

I remeber watching the Cowboy/Redskin game in Korea (tape delayed) with my boss. We had a ton of money on the game. The Redskins jumped into a 34-0 lead and Dallas came back to win 35-34. I wasn't worried about him retaliating with crap assignments (I was already getting those). I wasn't worried that he wouldn't pay (he had a reputation to maintain). I was worried about getting fragged (grenade thrown under my bunk). Redskins fans HATE Cowboy fans!!! They have backed then and they do today.

ok, this is the second time you've tried to pull the age card. I'm younger than you, i get that, but 23 years of being a fan isn't long enough to understand the rivalry? please.

If I knew people that were actually Redskins fans, maybe it'd be a little different, but win lose or draw it's going to end up the same for me. I don't have a brother that's going to call and talk ****, all 3 of my brothers are Cowboys fans.

I understand the rivalry, I understand the importance of the game, spare me the "you dont' get it cause you're young" bull****.

[Bigshot628]

Even in games I really don't care about, I'll pick one team that I'd like to win to make the game interesting. Why watch if you don't intend to get somewhat invested?

Nobody is calling it a season but if we don't get excited when they play well and get upset when they play poorly, why watch the game at all?

I watch the game and I do get upset when they don't play well, but I also look at the big picture, i don't have a knee jerk reaction over one game, no matter who it's against. Again, give me 3 or 4 weeks of bad play and i'll be concerned. Right now, I still say this team is the best team in the NFC.

[Bigshot628]

Me, I usually get my warm sensations from a the vicinity near the crotch.

you should probably talk to your doctor about this:D

[Texas Golfer]

ok, this is the second time you've tried to pull the age card. I'm younger than you, i get that, but 23 years of being a fan isn't long enough to understand the rivalry? please.

If I knew people that were actually Redskins fans, maybe it'd be a little different, but win lose or draw it's going to end up the same for me. I don't have a brother that's going to call and talk ****, all 3 of my brothers are Cowboys fans.

I understand the rivalry, I understand the importance of the game, spare me the "you dont' get it cause you're young" bull****.

Okay, I don't know why you are so sensitive about not being around for many years. If I could be 23 again knowing what I know, I'd jump at that chance.

But maybe it's because you don't know any Redskins fans that you don't understand the rivalry which only proves my point. I can tell you that Redskins fans HATE the Cowboys even if they don't know a Cowboy fan. They still approach the game as a rivalry. We seem to approach it as just another game.

Nobody is playing the "we're doomed" card. But I may have to use the age card. I may not live long enough to see how the rest of the season plays out so I have to take one game at a time. :D

But, in all sincerety, I suggest you try to enjoy each game, good and bad, and not just how it plays out for post season.

[Texas Golfer]

you should probably talk to your doctor about this:D

She's the one giving me the warm sensation. She also brings dinner with her.

[ChipOC]

Wasn't it Aikman's rookie year that the Cowboys had one win? That one win was against the Redskins who went on to win the Superbowl. The fans were happy because that is who they beat. The rivalry is important to the fans on both sides.

TG, you know any Philly fans? They hate us even more, but it is more like the UT/ATM rivalry where it is more one sided.

[Limnos]

it's a losers mentality if they only want to beat the Cowboys and not care about any other game. I would lose to the Redskins everytime as long as we were winning Super Bowls. How much do Dallas fans laugh at Houston when they treat the game as if it were the Super Bowl.

Would you rather Baylor beat the #1 team in the country, or go to a bowl game? I don't give a **** about one game, look at the big picture. Again, did you really expect to get through this season without any blemishes?
Wow...nice leap waaaaaay out left to kneejerkville. Rivalry games do not inspire loser mentalies. That is absurd. I absolutely HATE aggy. If my team stinks and win that game it makes me happy. That does not mean I accept losing the rest of the games. Your example of Dallas-Houston is invalid. To be a rivalry both sides fans and teams make it so. That is nowhere near the rivalry game that Dallas/Washington is. I watched the game that TG is referring to with my dad. he was ticked and then ecstatic when the Cowboys came back to win. I was as well. Dallas/Philly is close but not on the level of the Redskins rivalry.

Seriously...you want to talk Bowl smack with me? Should I respond with "How many bowl games have you played in" smack? I am 100% certain I win that one. ;) I am pretty sure I understand season goals over game goals very intimately.

Noone said the Cowboys were going to run the schedule but they are not beyond criticism when they play like crap. They played like crap and lost a game they should have dominated. The Cowboys current squad does not know how to finish off games for whatever reason and that is frustrating because I want them to run a perfect season. Don't come back with an argument here because they have no playoff wins. They need to learn how to kick the crap out of inferior teams and take it to the house and also win tough games at the end. They are close. They have that kind of talent on their squad but the mental part isn't there yet. They will be fine. I think you tend to defend the Cowboys too fast whenever someone critiques them. We are all (I think) Cowboys fans, but its ok to complain when they do not perform.

Wasn't it Aikman's rookie year that the Cowboys had one win? That one win was against the Redskins who went on to win the Superbowl. The fans were happy because that is who they beat. The rivalry is important to the fans on both sides.

TG, you know any Philly fans? They hate us even more, but it is more like the UT/ATM rivalry where it is more one sided.
Yes. That was a glorious victory and it deflated those pompous DC thugs that year. It was wonderful.

I agree about Philly. They hate Dallas but the true rivalry game is Washington.

[Texas Golfer]

Wasn't it Aikman's rookie year that the Cowboys had one win? That one win was against the Redskins who went on to win the Superbowl. The fans were happy because that is who they beat. The rivalry is important to the fans on both sides.

TG, you know any Philly fans? They hate us even more, but it is more like the UT/ATM rivalry where it is more one sided.

I spent many years in Philly and have been to many Eagle and Phillie games. The folks in Philly do hate the Cowboys but it's more about the feeling of getting no respect. When I was living there, their main rivalry was with the NY Giants.

[Chief'sbear]

Last year Randy White told the story of Harvey Martin placing a funeral wreath in the middle of the Redskins locker room, while they were in there. Those guys really hated each other.

Of course that was the day when players spent their entire careers with one team. I think the hatred has been mitigated by that. Now, you see guys on the Redskins that used to be Cowboys (Demetric Evans for one) and vice versa. These guys are all over the league for the most part, and you can tell it by the grab-*****ing that goes on after the games. It like a big party on the field after the game.

For those of us old enough to remember some of the hatred, its still a fun rivalry.

[Limnos]

Last year Randy White told the story of Harvey Martin placing a funeral wreath in the middle of the Redskins locker room, while they were in there. Those guys really hated each other.

Of course that was the day when players spent their entire careers with one team. I think the hatred has been mitigated by that. Now, you see guys on the Redskins that used to be Cowboys (Demetric Evans for one) and vice versa. These guys are all over the league for the most part, and you can tell it by the grab-*****ing that goes on after the games. It like a big party on the field after the game.

For those of us old enough to remember some of the hatred, its still a fun rivalry.
Oh thank you for posting Harvey Martin's name. He had some of his best games against the skins. Man that guy could get blood in his eyes. He was awesome and terrifying.

[Chief'sbear]

Oh thank you for posting Harvey Martin's name. He had some of his best games against the skins. Man that guy could get blood in his eyes. He was awesome and terrifying.

And he was likely the only guy who could get by with walking into an opposing team's lockerroom and putting a wreath in there. Everyone was scared of the guy.