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Lorne Gunter: Thirty years of warmer temperatures go poof
Posted: October 20, 2008, 10:26 AM by Kelly McParland Lorne Gunter (http://greengoldreport.com/forum/UrlBlockedError.aspx), Ful Comment (http://greengoldreport.com/forum/UrlBlockedError.aspx)

http://greengoldreport.com/forum/attachment.ashx?id=RgAAAAA8J9LwQYhZS6WAxTKPcs%2b7B wDzNH7dk65IQJkVJ7bwrYzIAAAAi0QRAAByV%2fYTcHNdR68cQ xY5xcZaAAZgMlJxAAAJ&attcnt=1&attid0=EACcZnQLP1vmTIsOQemk3j3B In early September, I began noticing a string of news stories about scientists rejecting the orthodoxy on global warming. Actually, it was more like a string of guest columns and long letters to the editor since it is hard for skeptical scientists to get published in the cabal of climate journals now controlled by the Great Sanhedrin of the environmental movement.
Still, the number of climate change skeptics is growing rapidly. Because a funny thing is happening to global temperatures -- they're going down, not up.
On the same day (Sept. 5) that areas of southern Brazil were recording one of their latest winter snowfalls ever and entering what turned out to be their coldest September in a century, Brazilian meteorologist Eugenio Hackbart explained that extreme cold or snowfall events in his country have always been tied to "a negative PDO" or Pacific Decadal Oscillation. Positive PDOs -- El Ninos -- produce above-average temperatures in South America while negative ones -- La Ninas -- produce below average ones.
Dr. Hackbart also pointed out that periods of solar inactivity known as "solar minimums" magnify cold spells on his continent. So, given that August was the first month since 1913 in which no sunspot activity was recorded -- none -- and during which solar winds were at a 50-year low, he was not surprised that Brazilians were suffering (for them) a brutal cold snap. "This is no coincidence," he said as he scoffed at the notion that manmade carbon emissions had more impact than the sun and oceans on global climate.
Also in September, American Craig Loehle, a scientist who conducts computer modelling on global climate change, confirmed his earlier findings that the so-called Medieval Warm Period (MWP) of about 1,000 years ago did in fact exist and was even warmer than 20th-century temperatures.
Prior to the past decade of climate hysteria and Kyoto hype, the MWP was a given in the scientific community. Several hundred studies of tree rings, lake and ocean floor sediment, ice cores and early written records of weather -- even harvest totals and censuses --confirmed that the period from 800 AD to 1300 AD was unusually warm, particularly in Northern Europe.
But in order to prove the climate scaremongers' claim that 20th-century warming had been dangerous and unprecedented -- a result of human, not natural factors -- the MWP had to be made to disappear. So studies such as Michael Mann's "hockey stick," in which there is no MWP and global temperatures rise gradually until they jump up in the industrial age, have been adopted by the UN as proof that recent climate change necessitates a reordering of human economies and societies.
Dr. Loehle's work helps end this deception.
Don Easterbrook, a geologist at Western Washington University, says, "It's practically a slam dunk that we are in for about 30 years of global cooling," as the sun enters a particularly inactive phase. His examination of warming and cooling trends over the past four centuries shows an "almost exact correlation" between climate fluctuations and solar energy received on Earth, while showing almost "no correlation at all with CO2."
An analytical chemist who works in spectroscopy and atmospheric sensing, Michael J. Myers of Hilton Head, S. C., declared, "Man-made global warming is junk science," explaining that worldwide manmade CO2 emission each year "equals about 0.0168% of the atmosphere's CO2 concentration ... This results in a 0.00064% increase in the absorption of the sun's radiation. This is an insignificantly small number."
Other international scientists have called the manmade warming theory a "hoax," a "fraud" and simply "not credible."
While not stooping to such name-calling, weather-satellite scientists David Douglass of the University of Rochester and John Christy of the University of Alabama at Huntsville nonetheless dealt the True Believers a devastating blow last month.
For nearly 30 years, Professor Christy has been in charge of NASA's eight weather satellites that take more than 300,000 temperature readings daily around the globe. In a paper co-written with Dr. Douglass, he concludes that while manmade emissions may be having a slight impact, "variations in global temperatures since 1978 ... cannot be attributed to carbon dioxide."
Moreover, while the chart below was not produced by Douglass and Christy, it was produced using their data and it clearly shows that in the past four years -- the period corresponding to reduced solar activity -- all of the rise in global temperatures since 1979 has disappeared.
It may be that more global warming doubters are surfacing because there just isn't any global warming.
lgunter@shaw.ca (http://greengoldreport.com/forum/redir.aspx?C=47893decb5104bd9990e1b66afaaa2bc&URL=mailto%3algunter%40shaw.ca)
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The Banterer
10-20-2008, 12:44 PM
I'm as skeptical about global warming as anyone, and I hate the the politicization of environmental issues at all, but I think it's a little bit early to write off global warming as a long-term trend. We certainly need to keep tracking the data, but one of the factors that makes it so difficult to legislate is that it takes a long time to record new data, years.

The article specifically mentions solar activity as a possible cause for the cooler temperatures this year, but it fails to address whether the lower solar activity is an aberration, or if the previous thirty years of solar activity had been a statistical anomaly. If the lessened solar activity is the less normal event, then it's hard to say that we should stop thinking about global warming altogether.

atxtraveler
10-20-2008, 12:51 PM
I believe in conservation because at the heart of it, I am a conservative. Regardless of the political aspect or the environmental aspect, I just think that "just because you can" is not a good enough excuse to do it.

I see alot of people driving Excursions around here, when they only have 2 kids.... really?

DONNIE D
10-20-2008, 12:51 PM
There was Frost on my windshield this morning, and sure enough, when I went outside a few minutes ago, it was gone. If you don't think Global Warming is here to stay, just wait till you see it first hand.

The Banterer
10-20-2008, 12:57 PM
I believe in conservation because at the heart of it, I am a conservative. Regardless of the political aspect or the environmental aspect, I just think that "just because you can" is not a good enough excuse to do it.

I see alot of people driving Excursions around here, when they only have 2 kids.... really?

But think of the groceries. For Pete's sake, the groceries!

atxtraveler
10-20-2008, 12:58 PM
But think of the groceries. For Pete's sake, the groceries!

Pete must be one lazy husband then. My wife can pack a month's worth in an Altima.

ChipOC
10-20-2008, 01:50 PM
Don Easterbrook, a geologist at Western Washington University, says, "It's practically a slam dunk that we are in for about 30 years of global cooling," as the sun enters a particularly inactive phase. His examination of warming and cooling trends over the past four centuries shows an "almost exact correlation" between climate fluctuations and solar energy received on Earth, while showing almost "no correlation at all with CO2."
Global warming is junk science. For heaven's sake, the SUN heats our planet.

atxtraveler
10-20-2008, 01:53 PM
Global warming is junk science. For heaven's sake, the SUN heats our planet.

This is true. I think Al Gore is just mad at the sun because of that awful sun tan it gave him recently. Now he has been trying to get back at it by telling lies about the world's population, so they can try and block out those UV rays.

The Banterer
10-20-2008, 04:17 PM
Global warming is junk science. For heaven's sake, the SUN heats our planet.

The Sun also heats one when outside, but one is typically warmer when wearing a coat.

Texas Golfer
10-20-2008, 04:48 PM
This is true. I think Al Gore is just mad at the sun because of that awful sun tan it gave him recently. Now he has been trying to get back at it by telling lies about the world's population, so they can try and block out those UV rays.

If Al Gore is mad at the sun, perhaps he should just fix it. Afterall, he did invent it.

ChipOC
10-20-2008, 04:56 PM
The Sun also heats one when outside, but one is typically warmer when wearing a coat.
So you are saying the heat from the core of the earth is causing it. Interesting.

The Banterer
10-20-2008, 05:09 PM
So you are saying the heat from the core of the earth is causing it. Interesting.

Yes that is exactly what I'm saying. The Earth is a mammal, I thought we were all clear on that before coming into this discussion. Gives you a new perspective on volcanic eruptions, doesn't it?

ChipOC
10-20-2008, 05:17 PM
Yes that is exactly what I'm saying. The Earth is a mammal, I thought we were all clear on that before coming into this discussion. Gives you a new perspective on volcanic eruptions, doesn't it?
Hey now, keep the sexual talk to the Insights on Dating thread.

Bexar Fan
10-20-2008, 05:23 PM
Discussions of bodily waste eliminations are often unwelcome topics, though scientists claim they contribute to global warming.

Chip, however loves such discussions!

Wacoso
10-21-2008, 03:24 AM
Discussions of bodily waste eliminations are often unwelcome topics, though scientists claim they contribute to global warming.

Chip, however loves such discussions!

and we all know that B/CS is where the tube for the enema should be inserted.

atxtraveler
10-21-2008, 10:27 AM
Garbage in, Garbage out.