Gov. Sarah Palin to speak tonight

[Limnos]

Pick any of the national channels. Gov. Sarah Palin is going to give her talk tonight. It should be interesting and she is reportedly going after Obama tonight.

[atxtraveler]

Pick any of the national channels. Gov. Sarah Palin is going to give her talk tonight. It should be interesting and she is reportedly going after Obama tonight.

Why would Palin speak after Obama? I thought they normally went in order of most experienced to least experienced...

[Limnos]

touche

Rudy is ripping Obama a new one right now. Huckabee got Obama pretty good earlier and Palin should seal the deal.

[atxtraveler]

touche

Rudy is ripping Obama a new one right now. Huckabee got Obama pretty good earlier and Palin should seal the deal.

Drill BABY Drill.

[Grace Anne]

I hope she impresses me tonight. I would like to be impressed.

[Limnos]

Rudy G is a very talented and dynamic speaker.

[atxtraveler]

yN54Fb9dLKs

[Limnos]

Gov. Sarah Palin is up.

Sic 'em Sarah!

[atxtraveler]

Hhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyy!

Sic 'em Sarah!

[Limnos]

Limnos' understatement of the night:

I get the strong impression that you do not want to be on the opposing side of Gov. Sarah Palin. This is a very impressive woman. More importantly she is a very impressive American leader.

[atxtraveler]

Limnos' understatement of the night:

I get the strong impression that you do not want to be on the opposing side of Gov. Sarah Palin. This is a very impressive woman. More importantly she is a very impressive American leader.

Palin: This is a man who has written two memoirs, but no legislative documents or changes to legislation.

[Grace Anne]

"And when those styrofoam Greek columns are hauled back to some studio lot..."

Greatness!

[Limnos]

"In politics there are some who use change to promote their careers. Then there are some like John McCain who use their careers to promote change."


Kapow!

[atxtraveler]

There are those that use change to promote their careers, John McCain uses his career to promote change.

[Limnos]

OUCH!

"There is only one man in this election who has ever really fought for you."

hahahahaha

[Limnos]

Game over.

Tom Moe's account of John McCain's POW experience has to be a slam dunk for most veterans. I got goosebumps.


Sarah Palin gets a solid A from me.

[KellerBear]

She has a good speech writer, huh?

[Limnos]

She has a good speech writer, huh?

Probably true but she is the one that delivered it. Well.

[atxtraveler]

Probably true but she is the one that delivered it. Well.
Anyone who says she does not have experience needs to listen to this speech.

[KellerBear]

Probably true but she is the one that delivered it. Well.

Not necessarily dogging her, I just find it funny that they don't write their own speeches....just wish I could have had other people write my papers for me at Baylor.

[Limnos]

I heard that KB. How nice would that have been?

[atxtraveler]

Not necessarily dogging her, I just find it funny that they don't write their own speeches....just wish I could have had other people write my papers for me at Baylor.

If they had to write their own material, this election would be featuring Tina Fey vs. Frank Calliendo.

[KellerBear]

If they had to write their own material, this election would be featuring Tina Fey vs. Frank Calliendo.

I would totally hit the polls to vote for either of those two!

[KellerBear]

I heard that KB. How nice would that have been?

I could have had ATX write my paper on vbulletin management...








or not?

[Limnos]

hahahaha...oh snap.

[KellerBear]

buuuuuuuurn

http://www.explosm.net/comics/1367/

[atxtraveler]

I could have had ATX write my paper on vbulletin management...








or not?

I hope you weren't an honors student before you submitted that paper.

[KellerBear]

I hope you weren't an honors student before you submitted that paper.

I dont think "honors student" and "digital film/media" play well with each other!

[atxtraveler]

I dont think "honors student" and "digital film/media" play well with each other!

True, unless you were doing a documentary on them.

[nein51]

Rudy G is a very talented and dynamic speaker.
No, he is not. I have seen him 3 times in public events that were NOT written by the best speech writers in the country. He rambles and is dull as hell. It will make you want to rip your eyes out.

He can deliver one HELL of a canned speech, however.

[atxtraveler]

No, he is not. I have seen him 3 times in public events that were NOT written by the best speech writers in the country. He rambles and is dull as hell. It will make you want to rip your eyes out.

He can deliver one HELL of a canned speech, however.

Well, he is a RINO.

[Limnos]

I like hearing him speak. It's not the first time I have thought he was good.

[KellerBear]

I like hearing him speak. It's not the first time I have thought he was good.

You just like the dulcet tones of his voice.

[nein51]

I saw him in Arkansas earlier this year and it was just painful. Of the 8 or so quality speakers he was the biggest name and, by far, the least "good". It was the 3rd time I have seen him in a non political speech setting and he was the same each time. He really is a rambling train wreck of a speaker without the help of a great writer. His delivery is fantastic but heaven save us from his writing.

[nein51]

I missed Mrs. Palin's speech, btw, can I get an objective grade along with why you grade it this way, please?

[BaylorPhillie]

I paid attention to about half of it.

I'm still undecided about either party right now.

[KellerBear]

I paid attention to about half of it.

I'm still undecided about either party right now.

except about the TOGA PARTY!!!!!!

[Limnos]

You just like the dulcet tones of his voice.

Tis true. All those tingly parts just activate you know? :w00t:

[Texas Golfer]

Out of the park on the first pitch! John McCain knew what he was doing in choosing her to be his running mate.

[Volunteer]

I missed Mrs. Palin's speech, btw, can I get an objective grade along with why you grade it this way, please?

I'm going to give her an A for two primary reasons:

1.) The speech was delivered incredibly well. She did an excellent job of introducing herself and effectively ripped Obama without sounding shrill and "mean". Her timing in terms of humor and sarcasm is just about perfect.

2.) The pressure on her - and the expectation - was massive. She delivered.

[KellerBear]

tis true. All those tingly parts just activate you know? :w00t:

wowzers penny!

[Volunteer]

She is certainly a torpedo aimed directly and Obama.

[BaylorPhillie]

except about the TOGA PARTY!!!!!!

:lol: true!

Except I won't be attending... I'll be stuck in yankeedom riding out the rest of Hurricane Hanna...

[KellerBear]

:lol: true!

Except I won't be attending... I'll be stuck in yankeedom riding out the rest of Hurricane Hanna...

I won't be there either...I'll be in Reno shooting a show for PBS...ahhh Reno...the biggest little crudhole in the world!

[BearChick]

Not necessarily dogging her, I just find it funny that they don't write their own speeches....just wish I could have had other people write my papers for me at Baylor.

I used to do some speechwriting for the CEO and some other executives of a Fortune 100 company. It was fun. One of my favorite jobs--putting words in other people's mouths.

[BearChick]

I'm going to give Palin a solid A for tonight.

One, she rose above expectations. I think the whole package of speech + delivery was far beyond what anyone would have given her credit for earlier today.

Two, her delivery was masterful. She didn't shout. She didn't drag. She didn't go Speedy Gonzales. She had fantastic pace and tone. It felt like she was carrying a conversation on with a group of friends.

Three, she's got a great speechwriter. There are a few speeches that I wish I had written. Many parts of tonight's speech made me feel that way.

Her speech was the perfect blend of sucker punches delivered with sugar coating. She made some very pointed barbs but said them with a sense of humor, so she didn't come off ugly. Many of her lines were memorable.

I think her tack of coming off as a hockey mom from a small town was genuine. I think it will play well in middle America.

On the flip side of the coin, she knew her stuff on energy and the war. She did not sound nearly as inexperienced as they've tried to portray her this week.

I think she really exceeded expectations. I think the GOP base will love it. I think GOP women will be inspired to make sure they get out and cast a ballot for her. I think she's given moderate Dems and Independents something to think about and someone to like and think about raising their flag for.

[Wacoso]

I won't be there either...I'll be in Reno shooting a show for PBS...ahhh Reno...the biggest little crudhole in the world!

Just stay away from Officer Dangle.

Oh, Stacy Peralta was down here shooting a documentary two weeks ago concerning tanker surfing.

[Limnos]

I won't be there either...I'll be in Reno shooting a show for PBS...ahhh Reno...the biggest little crudhole in the world!

Do you know Kliff Kuehl? I think he manages that Reno PBS station. Used to be at KWBU here.

[nein51]

Not that CNN is a bastion of moderates but 46% gave her speech a thumbs down, 41% thumbs up and the rest were did not watch.

[BearChick]

I'm no statistical genius, but why would you include people who didn't watch the speech in your sample, CNN? Your thumbs up/thumbs down percentage should equal 100%, not 87%.

[Diehard]

Well did you notice during the roll call when CNN had Louisiana up on the board, accompanied by an outline of the state of Kentucky? And when Arizona cast the deciding vote, they posted a graphic that said McCain wins Democratic nomination.

[Wacoso]

Well did you notice during the roll call when CNN had Louisiana up on the board, accompanied by an outline of the state of Kentucky? And when Arizona cast the deciding vote, they posted a graphic that said McCain wins Democratic nomination.

Really? Shaking my head in disgust.

[atxtraveler]

Well did you notice during the roll call when CNN had Louisiana up on the board, accompanied by an outline of the state of Kentucky? And when Arizona cast the deciding vote, they posted a graphic that said McCain wins Democratic nomination.

I am glad the liberal media could actually present anything with so much contempt in their hearts while reporting this.

[GigaBear]

Drill BABY Drill.


This embarrassed me. It made the GOP look like a bunch of retards. I agree that we need to drill, but.....ugh....


Rudy G is a very talented and dynamic speaker.

I saw what Nein said about him, but all that aside, his speech tonight was absolutely phenomenal. I actually just saw the replay a little while ago, and it was very good.


"In politics there are some who use change to promote their careers. Then there are some like John McCain who use their careers to promote change."



Quote of the election year.


I'm going to give her an A for two primary reasons:

1.) The speech was delivered incredibly well. She did an excellent job of introducing herself and effectively ripped Obama without sounding shrill and "mean". Her timing in terms of humor and sarcasm is just about perfect.

2.) The pressure on her - and the expectation - was massive. She delivered.



Agreed. I'm pleasantly surprised by her.


One thing I have to say that the GOP is NOT doing anything to cater to moderates. I saw her selection as one of attempting to reel in some of the moderates that McCain got interested, but many of the things at this convention will make them go the other way. At first her selection made me pretty confident in a GOP victory, but now I'm not so sure. Maybe you guys can get me confident again.

[tommie]

This embarrassed me. It made the GOP look like a bunch of retards. I agree that we need to drill, but.....ugh....


One thing I have to say that the GOP is NOT doing anything to cater to moderates. I saw her selection as one of attempting to reel in some of the moderates that McCain got interested, but many of the things at this convention will make them go the other way. At first her selection made me pretty confident in a GOP victory, but now I'm not so sure. Maybe you guys can get me confident again.

She's a base pick who doesn't understand national politics. IMO, the first rule is not to kick the national media in the crouch and say it's because you represent the people. It's a 2nd fight you don't need. When you do so, they dig up pictures of you NOT in a war zone in Bosnia or pictures of you supporting the bridge to no where. It will prompt them to do their job and fact check you.

2nd, she did two speeches. Cleaver on herself, rushed on the policy positions.

I'm looking forward to several things. Her first interviews with the national press, which she seems to be avoiding and the debate.

[KellerBear]

Do you know Kliff Kuehl? I think he manages that Reno PBS station. Used to be at KWBU here.

you bet I know Kliff! I worked at KWBU for 4 years...it is his PBS station that I have been making shows for. His wife is one of my bosses.

[SoTex]

This embarrassed me. It made the GOP look like a bunch of retards. I agree that we need to drill, but.....ugh....




I saw what Nein said about him, but all that aside, his speech tonight was absolutely phenomenal. I actually just saw the replay a little while ago, and it was very good.





Quote of the election year.






Agreed. I'm pleasantly surprised by her.


One thing I have to say that the GOP is NOT doing anything to cater to moderates. I saw her selection as one of attempting to reel in some of the moderates that McCain got interested, but many of the things at this convention will make them go the other way. At first her selection made me pretty confident in a GOP victory, but now I'm not so sure. Maybe you guys can get me confident again.

Selecting her as the VP candidate, shored up the base of the Republican party. Many Republicans were less than thrilled to have McCain as their candidate. In steps Palin and the conservative base is back on board.

The base is what will bring in the added dollars and volunteer time to get out and spread the word about McCain/Palin.

I think it's a great move, but I'm not guaranteeing a victory. I lived in Florida during the 1st Bush victory - anything can happen.

[ChipOC]

Not necessarily dogging her, I just find it funny that they don't write their own speeches....just wish I could have had other people write my papers for me at Baylor.
You would have had to have been on an athletic scholarship at UT to get that.

[KellerBear]

You would have had to have been on an athletic scholarship at UT to get that.

Aaaahhh, that's where everything went wrong!

[ChipOC]

This embarrassed me. It made the GOP look like a bunch of retards. I agree that we need to drill, but.....ugh....

One thing I have to say that the GOP is NOT doing anything to cater to moderates. I saw her selection as one of attempting to reel in some of the moderates that McCain got interested, but many of the things at this convention will make them go the other way. At first her selection made me pretty confident in a GOP victory, but now I'm not so sure. Maybe you guys can get me confident again.
Retards?

It is usually the VP's job to be the attack dog against the other party's nominee. She appealed to her base and was very effective in going after Obama. Great job.

Tommie, she was attacked by the media. She was right to go back after them a bit.

[Limnos]

Retards?

It is usually the VP's job to be the attack dog against the other party's nominee. She appealed to her base and was very effective in going after Obama. Great job.
I'm guessing that Ty isn't aware of the tradition of a "red meat" speech. He's younger though, so I understand. (not a knock at all)

Tommie, she was attacked by the media. She was right to go back after them a bit.

Dang straight and she did a good job imho.

Ty- I think she slam dunked the moderates. She's a mother, a woman, is married to a blue collar worker, has 5 kids, has a child of special needs, has a pregnant daughter, is a clear family woman, etc. She is Jill America (married to Joe America). More importantly, she cleaned house in her own party and the other side to recover one of the most corrupt governments in the US. She has fought back against special interests and not only won but chased them off. Moderates will love her.

[BrooksBearLives]

I'm going to give Palin a solid A for tonight.

One, she rose above expectations. I think the whole package of speech + delivery was far beyond what anyone would have given her credit for earlier today.

Two, her delivery was masterful. She didn't shout. She didn't drag. She didn't go Speedy Gonzales. She had fantastic pace and tone. It felt like she was carrying a conversation on with a group of friends.

Three, she's got a great speechwriter. There are a few speeches that I wish I had written. Many parts of tonight's speech made me feel that way.

Her speech was the perfect blend of sucker punches delivered with sugar coating. She made some very pointed barbs but said them with a sense of humor, so she didn't come off ugly. Many of her lines were memorable.

I think her tack of coming off as a hockey mom from a small town was genuine. I think it will play well in middle America.

On the flip side of the coin, she knew her stuff on energy and the war. She did not sound nearly as inexperienced as they've tried to portray her this week.

I think she really exceeded expectations. I think the GOP base will love it. I think GOP women will be inspired to make sure they get out and cast a ballot for her. I think she's given moderate Dems and Independents something to think about and someone to like and think about raising their flag for.

I'm guessing that Ty isn't aware of the tradition of a "red meat" speech. He's younger though, so I understand. (not a knock at all)



Dang straight and she did a good job imho.

Ty- I think she slam dunked the moderates. She's a mother, a woman, is married to a blue collar worker, has 5 kids, has a child of special needs, has a pregnant daughter, is a clear family woman, etc. She is Jill America (married to Joe America). More importantly, she cleaned house in her own party and the other side to recover one of the most corrupt governments in the US. She has fought back against special interests and not only won but chased them off. Moderates will love her.

She gave a GREAT speech. It was funny, clever and extremely well-directed. I didn't see her as Presidential at all, however. She came off as one of those people that they usually get to give "personal stories" at these things, just a really good version of it.

That having been said, all she did was go negative. I don't know that she had a positive comment in the whole thing. She said absolutely nothing about the economy, and she seemed to double-down on her own inexperience.

I like her. I think she's genuine. The only part of the speech that offended was the comment on community organizing... That was sorta B.S. I'm a community organizer. I come from a long line of community organizers... (though none professionally)...

And now that I'm going back and looking at the text of the speech again... I'm seeing that most of these comments, when given a second glance, have little or no basis in fact.

I think she will be formidable. I think she'll energize the base and get a lot of rural women to flock back to the Republican Party. I think she might even do more. She's reaaaaally far right, though.

The thing that made me a little sick is that this campaign has been pretty clean and mostly about the issues. Especially when compared to Kerry Bush and Bush Gore...

But no more. The Republicans are going back to the Rove 50 +1 strategy. Obama's trying to win on a unifying ticket.

We'll see who wins. I think this thing is going to get nasty, and that makes me really sad for discourse.

[ChipOC]

She gave a GREAT speech. It was funny, clever and extremely well-directed. I didn't see her as Presidential at all, however. She came off as one of those people that they usually get to give "personal stories" at these things, just a really good version of it.

That having been said, all she did was go negative. I don't know that she had a positive comment in the whole thing. She said absolutely nothing about the economy, and she seemed to double-down on her own inexperience.

I like her. I think she's genuine. The only part of the speech that offended was the comment on community organizing... That was sorta B.S. I'm a community organizer. I come from a long line of community organizers... (though none professionally)...

And now that I'm going back and looking at the text of the speech again... I'm seeing that most of these comments, when given a second glance, have little or no basis in fact.

I think she will be formidable. I think she'll energize the base and get a lot of rural women to flock back to the Republican Party. I think she might even do more. She's reaaaaally far right, though.

The thing that made me a little sick is that this campaign has been pretty clean and mostly about the issues. Especially when compared to Kerry Bush and Bush Gore...

But no more. The Republicans are going back to the Rove 50 +1 strategy. Obama's trying to win on a unifying ticket.

We'll see who wins. I think this thing is going to get nasty, and that makes me really sad for discourse.
Fair enough. I expected you to hate it.

[BrooksBearLives]

Fair enough. I expected you to hate it.

I'm only liberal compared to YOU guys.

I LOVE watching speeches and discourse.

I think Romney made an absolute tool out of himself, though.

[BrooksBearLives]

And I'd like to disagree with the "exceeding expectations" portion.

She did exactly what anyone thought she'd do. There's no way that McCain would choose her, with her background, if she wasn't a dynamite campaigner.

Kay Bailey Hutchison would have made a more intelligent choice, IMO, but I don't think Kay Bailey is nearly as dynamic a speaker or have nearly as great a story.

The McCain campaign is clearly out to make this about personality, not issues. I just find that disappointing, because the debate between the issues is actually a little bit more interesting. (especially seeing as how McCain is mostly in line with Bush and the number Bush has done on the economy)

[Diehard]

It was admittedly a little heavy on sarcasm but it fit squarely within the legacy of style and tone that Ann Richards perfected. Being a lifelong Texan it set just fine with me, but I can see how it may have played a little less well in more genteel precincts, such as the Midwest.

[BrooksBearLives]

It was beautifully delivered and I think it'll play well anywhere. She deserves her props.

She just had to sell the campaigns soul to get it, that's all.

[Limnos]

I'm only liberal compared to YOU guys.


Whoa hoss. I see John Kerry way out there on your right. ;)


:001_tt2:

[BrooksBearLives]

http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=184086

brilliantly funny. Don't care who you are. Check it out... maybe this deserves its own thread...

[BearChick]

Kay Bailey Hutchison would have made a more intelligent choice, IMO, but I don't think Kay Bailey is nearly as dynamic a speaker or have nearly as great a story.

The McCain campaign is clearly out to make this about personality, not issues. I just find that disappointing, because the debate between the issues is actually a little bit more interesting. (especially seeing as how McCain is mostly in line with Bush and the number Bush has done on the economy)

Kay Bailey's pro-choice. No way that the GOP nominates a pro-choice VP now. Also, Hutchison really wants to be governor.

And I don't really think the Obama camp is so issue-centric, either. Come on, what presidential election ever is? It's all pie in the sky fluff, let's be honest. No one wants to make a soundbite that will tank their political legacy a la "read my lips, no new taxes."

[nein51]

I'm only liberal compared to YOU guys.

I LOVE watching speeches and discourse.

I think Romney made an absolute tool out of himself, though.
I love you like a brother you are liberal and not compared to us. Hell, Teddy Kennedy may be a conservative by comparison.
It was beautifully delivered and I think it'll play well anywhere. She deserves her props.

She just had to sell the campaigns soul to get it, that's all.
You didnt REALLY think that this would be a "clean" campaign, did you? I know your candidate didnt. You cant attack him on his record, he doesnt have one. And her quip about community organizers was really spot on. Yes, lots of little barbs but people are already comparing her experience to the top of the other side of the ticket so it worked.
Whoa hoss. I see John Kerry way out there on your right. ;)


:001_tt2:
Nicely played!!

[Chief'sbear]

These are all very well thought out arguments, and I can see the points of all. But to boil it all down, she is just 44 year old hot. She looks just like my favorite girlfriend that I didn't marry. The whole time I was watching that speech, I was thinking about little Jeanie.

[Texas Golfer]

I'm guessing that Ty isn't aware of the tradition of a "red meat" speech. He's younger though, so I understand. (not a knock at all)



Dang straight and she did a good job imho.

Ty- I think she slam dunked the moderates. She's a mother, a woman, is married to a blue collar worker, has 5 kids, has a child of special needs, has a pregnant daughter, is a clear family woman, etc. She is Jill America (married to Joe America). More importantly, she cleaned house in her own party and the other side to recover one of the most corrupt governments in the US. She has fought back against special interests and not only won but chased them off. Moderates will love her.

I agree wholeheartedly.

[BrooksBearLives]

I love you like a brother you are liberal and not compared to us. Hell, Teddy Kennedy may be a conservative by comparison.

You didnt REALLY think that this would be a "clean" campaign, did you? I know your candidate didnt. You cant attack him on his record, he doesnt have one. And her quip about community organizers was really spot on. Yes, lots of little barbs but people are already comparing her experience to the top of the other side of the ticket so it worked.

Nicely played!!

I'd accuse you of knowing what you're talking about, but I don't know if I could make it through without laughing.

[Limnos]

These are all very well thought out arguments, and I can see the points of all. But to boil it all down, she is just 44 year old hot. She looks just like my favorite girlfriend that I didn't marry. The whole time I was watching that speech, I was thinking about little Jeanie.

Serious question. Does that play in her favor or against her? I think it helps. It is shallow for a voter to think that way, but it probably helps. All those hormonal first time voters might gravitate towards the beautiful.

There is always this classic little barb....

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blpic-repvsdemwomen.htm

[Chief'sbear]

Serious question. Does that play in her favor or against her? I think it helps. It is shallow for a voter to think that way, but it probably helps. All those hormonal first time voters might gravitate towards the beautiful.

There is always this classic little barb....

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blpic-repvsdemwomen.htm

It works for me. After being forced to see Hillary for now 15 years, I deserve to see a hottie when I see political news.

[BrooksBearLives]

Kay Bailey's pro-choice. No way that the GOP nominates a pro-choice VP now. Also, Hutchison really wants to be governor.

And I don't really think the Obama camp is so issue-centric, either. Come on, what presidential election ever is? It's all pie in the sky fluff, let's be honest. No one wants to make a soundbite that will tank their political legacy a la "read my lips, no new taxes."

Kay Bailey has a great record and a lot of experience. She would have made a better VP.

And I think you're wrong about the Obama Campaign. They have an actual list of things they want accomplish. An actual list of policies past "extend the Bush tax cuts." I don't think McCain can claim that. And that's frustrating for me because I really want to weigh what's right for the country and best for me.

Oh, and are you REALLY trying to say that Kay Bailey Hutchison wouldn't take the VP if offered to her? You're flipping crazy.

[quash]

http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=184086

brilliantly funny. Don't care who you are. Check it out... maybe this deserves its own thread...
Oh my, Karl. You just had yer knees cut out from under you.

[BrooksBearLives]

Oh my, Karl. You just had yer knees cut out from under you.

Karl Rove is a lying, fascist, sociopath.

He cares not at all about this country. He only cares about doing what's best for him, which is lining his pockets. The guy's a professional weasel.

[quash]

Karl Rove is a lying, fascist, sociopath.

He cares not at all about this country. He only cares about doing what's best for him, which is lining his pockets. The guy's a professional weasel.

My favorite Karl incident involves an interview he gave NPR. Probably didn't want to but the White House crew had kind of an Open House one day and NPR went.

This was just before the mid term elections. Karl was asked about the numbers showing that Dems would regain the House. He replied something like "YOUR numbers may say that but I have THE numbers, and the GOP will retain control of both houses."

Ahahahahahaha! If you're gonna go, go big!