Hurricane Ike

[golsalax]

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT09/refresh/AL0908W5_sm2+gif/085314W_sm.gif

The question is where will Hurricane Ike be going.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080907/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/tropical_weather

[Wacoso]

Headed this way.

[Limnos]

I hate that it took the turn. I thought it might go right and out into the Atlantic.

Prayers to you guys on the coast.

EDIT:


I was just looking at the historicals and the probable tracks W and I found something interesting. First, the current track takes Ike over the top of the length of Cuba. Obviously this plays in our favor in that it slows Ike down. It also creates a high drag factor that typically inspires a storm to turn if pressure systems are present. In this case the pressure would favor a Florida keys turn. Looking at the historical storms that have made this track would also support a Florida turn with Ike going out to sea in the Atlantic. The historicals are below courtesy of Weather Underground.

http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at200809_climo.html#a_topad

The thing that worries me most is the GFDL run which I have found to be most accurate. The GFDL has Ike leaving Cuba and getting ticked off, quickly turning to the Texas/LA coast as a Cat 4.
http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at200809_v5d.html?extraprod=v5d#a_topad


It's not a done deal yet, but take care.

[Wacoso]

GFDL also has a weird turn and just straight to Texas. One rarely runs straight and Dr. Masters says it should continue North into Alabama once GFDL corrects that turn.

[Limnos]

One thing seems probable with the models, looking at the sea temps, if this storm does enter the Gulf and doesn't take the Florida turn, it will power up regardless of the track.

[Wacoso]

Oh yeah. Big one headed into the weekend.

[DONNIE D]

Wacoso, just keep looking Left, and be careful.

[Wacoso]

Not worried about it until we get the call.

[DONNIE D]

It's the week you have to wait that kills ya.

In 89 Hugo didn't even slow down when it hit the coast. It came right over this house at 2 am and we were freaking. That one got my attention, and I'll never forget it. To many big trees at my place, and I don't want one in my Kitchen.

[wantsBU2win]

It could re-energize once it clears Cuba, and become a strong cat 3.

Wacoso, we're praying it doesn't hit TX!!

[BaylorPhillie]

It's the week you have to wait that kills ya.

In 89 Hugo didn't even slow down when it hit the coast. It came right over this house at 2 am and we were freaking. That one got my attention, and I'll never forget it. To many big trees at my place, and I don't want one in my Kitchen.


My uncle lived where Hugo hit in 89... he worked for CBS at the time, so they were able to go and tape the aftermath the day after. I've seen the tape a few times, and the devastation was saddening.

On a random note, I heard from my mom that in order to prevent hurricanes to focus on Corpus, one of their radio DJs goes through a carwash at the start of hurricane season to emulate the hurricane reporting.

Supposedly it's working.

[DONNIE D]

My uncle lived where Hugo hit in 89... he worked for CBS at the time, so they were able to go and tape the aftermath the day after. I've seen the tape a few times, and the devastation was saddening.

On a random note, I heard from my mom that in order to prevent hurricanes to focus on Corpus, one of their radio DJs goes through a carwash at the start of hurricane season to emulate the hurricane reporting.

Supposedly it's working.There are area's down there that never re-built. If your riding down Hwy 17 outside of Charleston, there's a shrimp boat(whats left of it) still in the top of a tree. It has to be 20 miles from the coast.

[BaylorPhillie]

There are area's down there that never re-built. If your riding down Hwy 17 outside of Charleston, there's a shrimp boat(whats left of it) still in the top of a tree. It has to be 20 miles from the coast.

I believe it. The first (and sadly, only at this point) time I went to MB and Charleston was when I went between Spring and Summer semesters one year to visit my aunt and uncle. My cousin was still a toddler then-- she's in 2nd or 3rd grade now I think.

[DONNIE D]

I believe it. The first (and sadly, only at this point) time I went to MB and Charleston was when I went between Spring and Summer semesters one year to visit my aunt and uncle. My cousin was still a toddler then-- she's in 2nd or 3rd grade now I think.When you get that ring on your finger, you can Honeymoon @ Donnie's NOT!!! :)

[BaylorPhillie]

When you get that ring on your finger, you can Honeymoon @ Donnie's NOT!!! :)

I'll spare you from the honeymoon activities, Donnie. ;)

From the talks we have had, the first ring might be on my finger sometime next year....

[DONNIE D]

I'll spare you from the honeymoon activities, Donnie. ;)

From the talks we have had, the first ring might be on my finger sometime next year....Activities? There are activities?

[BaylorPhillie]

Activities? There are activities?

I think there might be... I'll have to defer to those who have already done the honeymoon thing...

[DONNIE D]

I think there might be... I'll have to defer to those who have already done the honeymoon thing...Some of us have had multiple, can we answer twice?

[BaylorPhillie]

Some of us have had multiple, can we answer twice?

I think that would be a completely different thread. :)

[Wacoso]

LA is looking like a place Ike wants to call home. "Is Ellie Mae down there? Don't make me hurt you Ellie Mae!!!"

[golsalax]

The first link is realted to Accuweather's two possible scenarios with Ike (depending on the high's movement by Tuesday):

http://vortex.accuweather.com/adc2004/pub/includes/columns/topheadline/2008/IkeScenariosSept7.jpg

I'm sure any state that may expect Ike right now will say, "I don't like Ike".

The second link is related to riptides and surf:

http://vortex.accuweather.com/adc2004/pub/includes/columns/topheadline/2008/ripcurrentsSep7.jpg

[Limnos]

It would be highly unusual for Ike to remain straight. There is a mega-good chance that he turns towards the north or NNW. That should bring it ashore (todays guess) about where Gustav landed.

[Wacoso]

Yep, GFDL has it going near Houma again. This one should be larger than Gustav, unless Cuba messes it up.

[Chief'sbear]

Yep, GFDL has it going near Houma again. This one should be larger than Gustav, unless Cuba messes it up.

Downgraded to a Cat 2 thanks to Cuba. Glad they are good for something besides cigars...

:cool:

[Limnos]

Downgraded to a Cat 2 thanks to Cuba. Glad they are good for something besides cigars...

:cool:

The water heat energy will jazz Ike right back up. Probably to a 3-4 over water and a solid 2-3 at landfall.

Here is Dr. Masters take on landfall as of this morning.

As Ike moves approaches within 300 miles of the Louisiana coast on Friday, there will be another trough of low pressure capable of turning the storm to the north. The GFS, GFDL, HWRF, NOGAPS, and Canadian models all predict that this trough will be strong enough to turn Ike northwards into central or western Louisiana. The UKMET and ECMWF models disagree, and think high pressure will dominate enough to force Ike westwards into Texas, between Corpus Christi and the Louisiana border. These two models have been trending too far south with Ike so far, so I would lean towards a landfall in western Louisiana at this point.

[Wacoso]

The UKMET and ECMWF models disagree, and think high pressure will dominate enough to force Ike westwards into Texas, between Corpus Christi and the Louisiana border.

That's a pretty definitive answer by those two models. Let's just say from Cancun to NOLA to be accurate.

[Wacoso]

Well, it has South of us now, but we'll get the dirty side.

That was a 400 miles deviation. I don't think they have a clue where it is headed.

[Bexar Fan]

The latest from the weather channel:
http://www.weather.com/maps/news/atlstorm9/projectedpath_large.html?from=newslinker3

[BearChick]

Guess who is on the phone right now with Allstate right now, checking to see what her policy may or may not cover in the event that a hypothetical hurricane hits her house.

[Limnos]

Good luck BC. I know that you don't need it but just so it is said, if Ike decides to be mean you are all welcome here.

[Wacoso]

We're covered in housing cituations. The main thing I worry about is our house, then our business if we had a 10+ storm surge.

[Limnos]

W- seriously. If you need a hand, I can head that way on a vacation day almost immediately. Don't hesitate to ask.

[BearChick]

Awful nice of you, Lim.

It looks like, insurance-wise, we're covered on the store. As for the house, well, if it looks like it's coming this way, we'll be deciding what's irreplaceable and putting it in our cars (and my parents' if necessary) and at the least taking it to their place in Katy. I got a little sad earlier today doing a mental list of what I would take with me. Thankfully for us (but not for other folks) it looks like it's heading south of here, but until later in the week, really who the heck knows. It could wobble overnight and be right back on track for coming here.

[Limnos]

I'm a good pack mule and laborer BC. ;)

[Wacoso]

We'll be fine and I've always told her we're heading to Fort Stockton if a big one comes. Just going to look up Pecos, grab some Mexican food, beer, and watch the world go by. Then come back and get to work on rebuilding.

I'm going to be doing some serious remodeling at the store this year and figure if it were hit, we'd be able to put it in the new budget on the new location.

[Wacoso]

and looking at the new NHC line it seems the King Ranch is the winner. And really, that could be the best for everyone as there isn't a ton there, besides the ranch. Also, it is a category one and headed toward the mountains of eastern Cuba, which tore Gustav apart as a category four. Any chance it destroys Ike?

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT09/refresh/AL0908W5+gif/030732W_sm.gif

[Limnos]

Looking at it now I think it will knock Ike down but he will reorganize into a decent 2 storm. Just my guess.

[Wacoso]

Category 2 is nothing to sneeze at, but I'll be here if that is all he becomes.

[Wacoso]

South Padre. The barrel is calling, again.

http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at200809_model.html#a_topad

[biggmatt24]

As for the house, well, if it looks like it's coming this way, we'll be deciding what's irreplaceable and putting it in our cars (and my parents' if necessary) and at the least taking it to their place in Katy. I got a little sad earlier today doing a mental list of what I would take with me.That's not a fun thing to think about. Had to do the same thing with the wildfires out here last year.

I hope Ike behaves and calms down before hitting the coast.

[Wacoso]

The best thing about the hurricane for us is getting the water from the gulf pushed in. We've had green, blue, crystal clear water the past couple of weeks, except when Gustav came in and muddied up the place. Yesterday had an eddy of aqua in the middle of deep blue. Really cool looking.

[HappyRebel]

The best thing about the hurricane for us is getting the water from the gulf pushed in. We've had green, blue, crystal clear water the past couple of weeks, except when Gustav came in and muddied up the place. Yesterday had an eddy of aqua in the middle of deep blue. Really cool looking.

Sounds pretty.....I would have loved too have seen the waterspout...

[Wacoso]

Well, he's shifted again. Corpus Christi, you're on deck.

[HappyRebel]

Don't you hate that it can't decide where it wants too land...it needs to pick a course and stick with it...it's not even a female...lol...J/K no hate mail ladies...

[Wacoso]

Yeah, the coastal towns are going:
Whew!
Uh oh.
Dang it!
Whew!
Dang it!!!!
MOTHERF!!!!!
Whew.

[HappyRebel]

That sucks....I bet you guys are happy when hurricane season is over...

[Wacoso]

Adds a little excitement to an islander's life.

[HappyRebel]

It sounds like it....I bet it is interesting...

[Wacoso]

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=1075&tstamp=200809

Well, not so good, not so bad, just needs to find a place to go.

[Wacoso]

Corpus is getting zeroed in on again.

Bigshot's dad gonna be a busy, busy man.

[Limnos]

I hate to see it dialing up Corpus. I really love that place and still know a ton of good folks down there, most notably, Donnie's sister and brother in law. Great folks.

DD- please let us know if they need help in any way.

[Wacoso]

I hate to see it dialing up Corpus. I really love that place and still know a ton of good folks down there, most notably, Donnie's sister and brother in law. Great folks.

DD- please let us know if they need help in any way.

Pretty sure they are already on the way to Waco.

Yeah, hate to see it hit anywhere in Texas or anywhere else. We'll get some fun, but most likely not 100+ winds.

[Limnos]

I'm glad for you guys of course, but I wish Ike would make landfall in a non-populated area.

[Wacoso]

I'm glad for you guys of course, but I wish Ike would make landfall in a non-populated area.

Like that big gray area on the map.

[BaylorPhillie]

I hate to see it dialing up Corpus. I really love that place and still know a ton of good folks down there, most notably, Donnie's sister and brother in law. Great folks.

DD- please let us know if they need help in any way.

Talked to my sis tonight-- she said she isn't evacuating unless they cancel her classes at school. My mom is already looking at evacuating.

[Wacoso]

If they need a place further up on the coast, I'm sure I can get them a room.

[Limnos]

Here is the latest GFDL run. The path goes through the Corpus area and cuts through Waco.

http://icons-pe.wunderground.com/data/storm_radar/ike09l.2008090912_anim.gif?cache=225

[golsalax]

Any changes in Ike's path toward Texas? Is it still going toward the Freeport or Corpus Christi area?

http://www.kwtx.com/weather

From Brady Taylor:

Showers are ongoing across parts of Central Texas this morning, and we will continue to see the chance for off and on showers throughout the day. After today the weather will be quite to end out the workweek, but that changes dramatically as we head into the weekend.

Ike is forecast to make landfall early Saturday morning near Corpus Christi as a major hurricane. Where Ike goes from there will have a major impact on our weather here in Central Texas. The latest forecast from the National Hurricane Center brings the slowly weakening storm into Central Texas overnight Saturday into Sunday.

If this path occurs, we would expect the potential for serious weather concerns in Central Texas this weekend. These would include the possibility of flooding rain, high winds, and tornadoes associated with the outer rainbands of the storm. It is still too early to put anything "in stone" and our Doppler 10 Forecast team will continue to monitor the storm's progress with regular updates.

I saw this report last night, and it looks the same this morning.

[DONNIE D]

Limnos, yes, they are snug as a bug in Laguna Park this morning. Brother in Lake Jackson is headed to Tyler. All is good.

[BearChick]

Any changes in Ike's path toward Texas? Is it still going toward the Freeport or Corpus Christi area?

http://www.kwtx.com/weather



I saw this report last night, and it looks the same this morning.

Well, it's still projected to go in around Matagorda Bay. The UKMET, however, is still showing a little south of Freeport and the UKMET is the model that has been most accurate for this storm so far.

Even if it goes in at Matagorda, we can expect a pretty good storm surge here and some pretty ugly weather as we'll be on the dirty side of the storm. The local folks are saying that if it were to go in even 50 miles north of where most projections are taking it, that would be devastating for Galveston. They issued a voluntary evacuation for the West End yesterday. We live close enough to the West End that our water supply is tied to theirs and if it floods down there, they will likely cut off the water to keep what damage they can down. So we decided last night that the baby and I will go to my parents' house.

We also made up an informal list of what we consider "irreplaceable" and would want to take with us in the event of a storm. I will probably pack those things up today and my dad will come down here Friday morning and put them in his SUV (after one car seat, two dogs, one stroller, one pack and play and a suitcase, there's not a whole lot of room left in my car.

Right now, they really have no idea where this storm is headed. It's been too unpredictable so far and there ara so many complex variables that will affect it (2 high pressure systems, 2 fronts,and water temperature in the Gulf.) We will probably have a more clear picture tomorrow, but may not really know unitl Friday--and it's expected to make landfall overnight Friday/early Saturday (subject to change, of course).

Wacoso and I were talking last night about how weird it is just sitting and waiting, knowing everything will either be fine and it'll be another false alarm/whew we got lucky kind of thing or that our entire life as we know it could be completely gone by this weekend. Luckily, we're insured at the house and the store, and no matter what happens, we'll be fine, but it is weird just waiting knowing you can't do much and knowing that so much could potentially happen.

[DONNIE D]

As I said the other day, It's the wait that gets you.

[BearChick]

FYI, Galveston has just issued a voluntary evacuation for the West End of the Island, which begins just yards from our house. We are the last subdivision behind the Seawall, and we're not behind it by much. They will be declaring a state of emergency for the city at 11:30 today, according to a story just posted on the Daily News website.

[Wacoso]

Well, 1pm models have GFDL putting us in a direct hit and the worst possible happening with it going up the ship channel. I bet I'll count 40+ news vans on the Seawall today.

[Chief'sbear]

Limnos, yes, they are snug as a bug in Laguna Park this morning. Brother in Lake Jackson is headed to Tyler. All is good.

Boy have I spent many a day there. I went to school close by and spent many afternoons and weekends wooing women on Lake Whitney.

My grandfather had a standing joke that I ALWAYS fell for. Over at Lofer's Bend there is the old silo still standing (saw it last week). He would say, "boy (never called me by name, only "boy"), did you hear there was a man that died over in that silo?"

Followed by silence, at which point my curiosity would get the better of me. So I ask how. Followed by, "yeah, he ran himself to death looking for a corner to pee in."

Followed by everyone laughing but me. How did I not remember it so many times. Yes, I am a dork.

[Bexar Fan]

This is what I'm following. It seems to be up to date even though it is from Florida.

http://weather.myfoxtampabay.com/maps/WTVT/custom/storms/ike_models.html

[Wacoso]

Boy have I spent many a day there. I went to school close by and spent many afternoons and weekends wooing women on Lake Whitney.

My grandfather had a standing joke that I ALWAYS fell for. Over at Lofer's Bend there is the old silo still standing (saw it last week). He would say, "boy (never called me by name, only "boy"), did you hear there was a man that died over in that silo?"

Followed by silence, at which point my curiosity would get the better of me. So I ask how. Followed by, "yeah, he ran himself to death looking for a corner to pee in."

Followed by everyone laughing but me. How did I not remember it so many times. Yes, I am a dork.

You could catch some nice catfish in that silo. I used to wade fish out there with my flyrod for perch and smallmouth.

[Chief'sbear]

You could catch some nice catfish in that silo. I used to wade fish out there with my flyrod for perch and smallmouth.

Yeah, that cove is great for smallmouth when the lake has water in it. The little cove is dry right now.

[Wacoso]

Yeah, that cove is great for smallmouth when the lake has water in it. The little cove is dry right now.

It probably will not be after this weekend.

[Limnos]

Uh oh. Jim Cantore went to Galveston.

[Chief'sbear]

This is a big bad one kids.

http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at200809_sat.html#a_topad

[BearChick]

Just pray for us, folks. Thanks.

[Limnos]

Just pray for us, folks. Thanks.

Have been and will continue to do so my dear.

[Wacoso]

Uh oh. Jim Cantore went to Galveston.

BBL and I are headed over there right now to kick him in the ding ding.

[Wacoso]

and I keep reading that it is going to turn left. It hasn't and if it doesn't then LA/MS is in trouble.

[The Banterer]

Best of luck to everyone down on the coast. Looking at the latest projections, it looks like it should still have a little fight when it gets to Austin. Nothing like what the coast will have, but I've never been around in a Hurricane(or even tropical storm) so it should be interesting.

[golsalax]

That Ike is really weird. Like what Wacoso just said earlier, it looks like TX is the target, but it now looks like a crap shoot- it may be TX or LA or MS.

[Limnos]

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hurricane ike advisory number 40
nws tpc/national hurricane center miami fl al092008
1000 pm cdt wed sep 10 2008

...large hurricane ike slowly headed northwestward...

At 1000 pm cdt...0300 utc...the tropical storm warning west of key
west to dry tortugas has been discontinued.

A tropical storm warning remains in effect from the mouth of the
mississippi river westward to east of cameron louisiana. A tropical
storm warning means that tropical storm conditions are expected
within the warning area within the next 24 hours.

A hurricane watch remains in effect from cameron louisiana westward
to port mansfield texas. A hurricane watch means that hurricane
conditions are possible within the watch area...generally within 36
hours.

For storm information specific to your area...including possible
inland watches and warnings...please monitor products issued
by your local weather office.

At 1000 pm cdt...0300z...the center of hurricane ike was located
near latitude 24.9 north...longitude 86.7 west or about 675 miles...
1090 km...east of brownsville texas and about 325 miles...525 km...
South-southeast of the mouth of the mississippi river.

Ike is moving toward the northwest near 7 mph...11 km/hr. A turn
back toward the west-northwest is expected tonight or early on
thursday...and a general west-northwestward motion over the central
and western gulf of mexico is expected on thursday and friday.

Data from a noaa hurricane hunter aircraft indicate that maximum
sustained winds remain near 100 mph...160 km/hr...with higher
gusts. Ike is a category two hurricane on the saffir-simpson scale.
Although fluctuations in strength are possible during the next
couple of days...gradual strengthening is forecast during this
period...and ike could become a major hurricane on thursday or
friday.

Ike is a large tropical cyclone. Hurricane force winds extend
outward up to 115 miles...185 km...from the center...and tropical
storm force winds extend outward up to 230 miles...370 km.

The minimum central pressure just reported by the noaa hurricane
hunter aircraft was 944 mb...27.88 inches.

Coastal storm surge flooding along the coast of cuba and in the
florida keys should continue to subside tonight. Coastal storm
surge flooding of 3 to 5 feet above normal tide levels...along with
large and dangerous battering waves...can be expected within the
tropical storm warning area. Above normal tides of 2 to 4 feet are
expected elsewhere along much of the northern coast of the gulf of
mexico during the next day or so...but will be increasing along the
western gulf coast as ike approaches.

Ike is expected to produce total rainfall accumulations of 6 to 12
inches over western cuba...with isolated maximum amounts of up to
20 inches possible. These rains are likely to cause
life-threatening flash floods and mud slides over mountainous
terrain. Rainfall amounts of 2 to 4 inches are possible over
extreme southern louisiana. Rainfall amounts of 1 to 2 inches are
possible over the northern yucatan peninsula.

Repeating the 1000 pm cdt position...24.9 n...86.7 w. Movement
toward...northwest near 7 mph. Maximum sustained winds...100 mph.
Minimum central pressure...944 mb.

An intermediate advisory will be issued by the national hurricane
center at 100 am cdt followed by the next complete advisory at 400
am cdt.

$$
forecaster knabb/berg

[wantsBU2win]

Uh oh. Jim Cantore went to Galveston.

he flat out rocks. He'll scream at you for not evacuating yet.

BBL and I are headed over there right now to kick him in the ding ding.

before you do, could you get his autograph? :lol:

I'm kidding.....hope y'all stay safe and that maybe it will now miss TX altogether.

[DONNIE D]

Man this thing made a big turn overnight. Hold on G-Town, it's now on it's way.

[DONNIE D]

BC, are you sure Katy is far enough away?

[DONNIE D]

I was just looking at the Webcams from G-Town, and nothing is boarded up. The Spot, the Postoffice, the Downtown area. Nothing. Maybe they'll do it today.

[BearChick]

Mandatory evacuation was just issued for Galveston 15 minutes ago. They are predicting widespread problems and devastation of infrastructure. The west end is already flooding. We are leaving in about 10 minutes, and Wacoso will leave as soon as the store is secure (not that it may matter much in the end.) Praise God, though, everything we wanted to take fit into my dad's SUV--with the exception of the baby's swing and one box, which will fit in Wacoso's truck along with suitcases of clothes.

Also, pray for our next door neighbor. Her grandmother died 2 days ago and her mother is just having a difficult time already and now this, and she is having a hard time leaving.

[Friscobear]

Wow. The spaghetti models are all over the map today. They were pretty tightly grouped yesterday.

Weird.

[Limnos]

Mandatory evacuation was just issued for Galveston 15 minutes ago. They are predicting widespread problems and devastation of infrastructure. The west end is already flooding. We are leaving in about 10 minutes, and Wacoso will leave as soon as the store is secure (not that it may matter much in the end.) Praise God, though, everything we wanted to take fit into my dad's SUV--with the exception of the baby's swing and one box, which will fit in Wacoso's truck along with suitcases of clothes.

Also, pray for our next door neighbor. Her grandmother died 2 days ago and her mother is just having a difficult time already and now this, and she is having a hard time leaving.
We said a prayer for you here this morning after my staff meeting. Know that several people that you don't even know are lifting you guys up (and the others) in prayer here. Please be safe and I hope to see you all soon.

[BaylorPhillie]

Stewart Beach webcam... still on...

http://www.galveston.com/webcams/stewartbeach/frameset.html

[BaylorBabe]

Stewart Beach webcam... still on...

http://www.galveston.com/webcams/stewartbeach/frameset.html


Is that time stamp at the top usually accurate? I don't look at the webcam much. But right now it's stamped just shortly before 8:00 AM today.

[BaylorPhillie]

Just noticed that too... the other ones seemed to be a lot more recent...

http://www.galveston.com/webcams/

[Texas Golfer]

I can get a photo but I'm not getting the webcam from Stewart Beach, only from The Spot and it only shows people in the bar.

[redfish961]

I wish I had seen this thread earlier.

I probably could have offered some advice, above and beyond the normal, when dealing with a particular insurance carrier, including most of the tactics that are used.

This advice is born from years of experience as an independent consultant/expert witness in court and the same as a general manager of a national restoration company that has experienced many a hurricane (at least 10 majors).

On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being the most client friendly, this particular carrier is a negative 10 in my opinion. So accurate, that they are the only carrier out of THOUSANDS that we will simply not do work for.

If you'd like those pieces of advice, which some may not possible at this time, send a PM.

Hopefully, I've been specific enough for the intended target to realize I'm talking to them, but general enough to avoid any legal repercussions.

P.S. It doesn't matter how friendly your agent is. They will not be the personnel handling your case nor have any influence on the process.

[BaylorPhillie]

I talked to my sister earlier-- she said that my mom talked to the NWS (the benefit of working at a hospital), and they are currently calling Galveston beach right now the "kill zone".

Those people should get the hell out of dodge.

[Chief'sbear]

I can't anything to work except the pic from stewart beach.

[Limnos]

That pic from Stewart beach is a somber sight. At just before 8am the water appears to be up to the pavilion at OO's. The base of the volleyball posts are under water.

:(

[BaylorPhillie]

I thought so too, Lim.

[Texas Golfer]

Do y'all think the camera over OO's is out?

[Limnos]

Stewart Beach webcam... still on...

http://www.galveston.com/webcams/stewartbeach/frameset.html

Do y'all think the camera over OO's is out?

Yes. :(

[BaylorPhillie]

They may have disconnected it...

[Limnos]

They may have disconnected it...

I think Ike might have.

When I talked to BBL a little while ago he said that he thought his apartment was already underwater. :( With Ike expected to hit Galveston head on now, he may be right.

[BearChick]

That pic from Stewart beach is a somber sight. At just before 8am the water appears to be up to the pavilion at OO's. The base of the volleyball posts are under water.

:(

When Wacoso left just before noonish, the tide was up to the building.

[BearChick]

I think Ike might have.

When I talked to BBL a little while ago he said that he thought his apartment was already underwater. :( With Ike expected to hit Galveston head on now, he may be right.

His place probably isn't yet, but there is flooding already in Jamaica Beach and has been for some time today.

[Limnos]

I'm resigned to Ike at this point but this sucks.

Aw heck BC, I feel so bad. I tried calling you a little while ago and the cell towers were full or something. I got an odd message along those lines.

[Limnos]

Dear Lord have mercy. I have never seen a governmental warning like this. This comes from the Galveston National Weather Service office.

http://www.wunderground.com/US/TX/Galveston.html

All neighborhoods... and possibly entire coastal communities... will be inundated during high tide. Persons not heeding evacuation orders in single family one or two story homes will face certain death. Many residences of average construction directly on the coast will be destroyed. Widespread and devastating personal property damage is likely elsewhere. Vehicles left behind will likely be swept away. Numerous roads will be swamped... some may be washed away by the water. Entire flood prone coastal communities will be cutoff. Water levels may exceed 9 feet for more than a mile inland. Coastal residents in multi-story facilities risk being cutoff. Conditions will be worsened by battering waves. Such waves will exacerbate property damage... with massive destruction of homes... including those of block construction. Damage from beach erosion could take years to repair.

[BaylorPhillie]

Dear Lord have mercy. I have never seen a governmental warning like this. This comes from the Galveston National Weather Service office.

http://www.wunderground.com/US/TX/Galveston.html

I talked to my mom earlier today-- she works at a hospital, and was talking directly to the NWS. She said that they are calling the coast a "kill zone"...

my prayers are with everyone on the coast. May the storm not be as bad as we fear.

[Texas Golfer]

Dear Lord have mercy. I have never seen a governmental warning like this. This comes from the Galveston National Weather Service office.

http://www.wunderground.com/US/TX/Galveston.html

Wow! I've never before heard the NWS ever say that those who did not evacuate face certain death.

[nein51]

It is so hard to imagine the feelings people are having. I know that mrs nein talked to BC today and I talked to her via text but Im not sure a person can really explain how it feels to know in their gut that in 2-3 days there is the very real chance their home wont be there.

I am 100% sure that the islanders on this board know that many on here are happy to have you in our homes. It isnt home...but I hope it is the next best thing (or close to it after family).

When this is over and the water goes back where it belongs you guys just let me know what you need. I have a ton of vacation left and I cant think of a better way to spend it than to help you get things back to normal.

[BaylorPhillie]

News up here in yankeedom said that the storm looks like it won't get above a 2... because it's so large, it's having trouble getting more organized. But there is a slight chance that it will become a 3 right before landfall.

But this is coming from a yankee weatherperson, so you never know. :)

[golsalax]

I was checking out KWTX and it has this link up right now about Hurricane Ike.

http://www.kwtx.com/tropicalupdate

FYI.

Yea, Weather Underground is more preferable. :D

[Chief'sbear]

I was checking out KWTX and it has this link up right now about Hurricane Ike.

http://www.kwtx.com/tropicalupdate

FYI.

Yea, Weather Underground is more preferable. :D

wunderground rocks.
:thumbup:

[Wacoso]

That pic from Stewart beach is a somber sight. At just before 8am the water appears to be up to the pavilion at OO's. The base of the volleyball posts are under water.

:(

They disconnected the webcam.

I went up there at 8am this morning and boarded up the store with the help of Brandon and his crew. Took about an hour of sawing, hammering, and drilling. Then I moved all the merchandise to as high a point as I could and our MGR boxed up the small items. Turned off the electricity, took the registers, credit card machines, and locked it up. Went home, loaded up our belongings, had a bite to eat, said goodbye, and hit the road. Took HWY 6 all the way up to 290 and only 290 had bad traffic. Sugarland had some stop and go stuff, but mostly just people on their usual day.

Stopped in C/S and ate at Freebird's with BBL and had a Shiner toast to friends and safety. Texted WillThing until he gave in and decided to leave. Michael and Adrienne say they are staying, per WillThing. Please pray for them as well. I don't handle losing friends well and they are great to us all.

Arrived in Waco around 9pm, unloaded, sat down, and thought of what all can be, could be, and most likely will.

Now, I'm watching the surfcam and the waves are over the jetty on 37th, which is very rare. Also, a 51 foot wave was observed 180 miles offshore. If you think this is a small hurricane, well...

Love you guys and gals and appreciate all the prayers from each of you. Don't forget there are plenty more that need them on the coast.

[Wacoso]

It is so hard to imagine the feelings people are having. I know that mrs nein talked to BC today and I talked to her via text but Im not sure a person can really explain how it feels to know in their gut that in 2-3 days there is the very real chance their home wont be there.

I am 100% sure that the islanders on this board know that many on here are happy to have you in our homes. It isnt home...but I hope it is the next best thing (or close to it after family).

When this is over and the water goes back where it belongs you guys just let me know what you need. I have a ton of vacation left and I cant think of a better way to spend it than to help you get things back to normal.

We appreciate it and Limnos told me the same. We can clean, we can build, and we will return. It might not be the same for quite awhile, but we'll be there.

[Wacoso]

When Wacoso left just before noonish, the tide was up to the building.

I pulled up around 8 and it was covering 50% of the parking lot. At 11ish when I left it had circled the building. I got in the truck, stopped to tell the chair and umbrella guys goodbye and it started trickling in under the building. It was almost movie like with that trickle finding your feet and you look down to be standing in water and you know it will not be good.

[Wacoso]

It is so hard to imagine the feelings people are having. I know that mrs nein talked to BC today and I talked to her via text but Im not sure a person can really explain how it feels to know in their gut that in 2-3 days there is the very real chance their home wont be there.

As I've told Kristen, I have her, I have our baby, we all have our health, we have our faith, we have our family, and we have our friends. All the rest is secondary.

It is a very sobering experience to know that something so large and powerful can (possibly) cause such destruction to your home, but we love it there. We live Galveston. You either get it or you leave. We get it. We work it. We support it. Gonna be hard for me to go back, if it hits, without breaking down and seeing the destruction of some great places that gave us great memories.

I can almost see Crazy Oaks floating off into the bay. I can see Gaido's full of water due to the storm surge. I can see our pavilion collapsing under the weight of water and wind. I can see East Beach's pavilion being wiped off the map. **** Deck being pushed back into the city. So many friends, so many lives, so much being affected.

[Wacoso]

oh yeah, you feel guilty for going to the game while your wife and child are in Katy.

[Wacoso]

Newest models make it pretty much inevitable that it will give Galveston a very bad storm surge.

[DONNIE D]

Man, this sucks bigtime.

Glad your safe.

[BearChick]

oh yeah, you feel guilty for going to the game while your wife and child are in Katy.

I told you to go to the game, silly. We'd be there, but that it's just too hard to travel with her in the level of traffic that there is. (And of course, we can't leave now. Tropical storm winds here in a matter of hours, and I certainly don't want to be in a car for that!)

The immediate good news is we should only see winds of 60 mph or so with 4 inches of rain here in Katy, from midnight to about 9 am tomorrow. Just west of here (Brookshire/Sealy) it's predicted to be far less, so we should be okay here. We have plenty of supplies to take care of us here for a while and the neighbor has 2 generators he said we can pull off of, so that's good.

Hun, if you can source a generator or two in Waco, though, that would be good to bring back (plus maybe some gas to run it with). I think we'll be needing that when we go back home to start picking up stuff.

And why in the world are Mikey and Adrienne staying????

[wantsBU2win]

As I've told Kristen, I have her, I have our baby, we all have our health, we have our faith, we have our family, and we have our friends. All the rest is secondary.

It is a very sobering experience to know that something so large and powerful can (possibly) cause such destruction to your home, but we love it there. We live Galveston. You either get it or you leave. We get it. We work it. We support it. Gonna be hard for me to go back, if it hits, without breaking down and seeing the destruction of some great places that gave us great memories.

I can almost see Crazy Oaks floating off into the bay. I can see Gaido's full of water due to the storm surge. I can see our pavilion collapsing under the weight of water and wind. I can see East Beach's pavilion being wiped off the map. **** Deck being pushed back into the city. So many friends, so many lives, so much being affected.

You know, after seeing the city a few times over the years, I'm really sad too. I have memories of Crazy Oaks, Gaido's, Stewart Beach, Ocean Oso's, and so forth.

But like you said, we have the memories.

[nein51]

If we can get back down there Sunday I dont have to be anywhere until Tuesday so let me know and we can trek down to see what is left. Load up Wacoso's truck and mine we should be able to carry a bunch down there.

I agree, btw, Wacoso, the rest is just "stuff" but losing it in an instant would be far easier than preparing to lose it for 3-4 days.

[BearChick]

If we can get back down there Sunday I dont have to be anywhere until Tuesday so let me know and we can trek down to see what is left. Load up Wacoso's truck and mine we should be able to carry a bunch down there.

I agree, btw, Wacoso, the rest is just "stuff" but losing it in an instant would be far easier than preparing to lose it for 3-4 days.

I doubt they let us back on for several days, honestly. There will be downed power lines all over the place and it will take a while for floodwaters to recede. I don't see us getting in until midweek, honestly. But if we can go in earlier, we'll load up that new Yukon!

[nein51]

If it is later in the week, I will be back Thursday and take off Friday though I do have to fly out Monday, the 22nd. Whatever it takes.

[BaylorBabe]

My sister was a lawyer for the SBA relief team after Katrina and Rita, if you need anything when you get back in regarding that kind of thing let me know and we'll get her in touch with her contacts over there.

And let me know when we're ready for a cleaning up party. FIJI is actually pretty handy and I am good for manual labor if nothing more sophisticated. :)

[LIQRinPU]

I can lift heavy objects. Would consider helping an honor.

[Solan]

I will happily go down to help.

[Bexar Fan]

Mrs BF and I were planning to go to Galveston next weekend. I don't know that she has made any other plans yet so I think we are available to help too.

[FIJIFan]

FIJI is actually pretty handy

You say that like you are suprised! :w00t:

[BaylorBabe]

You say that like you are suprised! :w00t:

:lol: I'm not surprised, I was more saying it for the benefit of Wacoso and BC :)

[FIJIFan]

:lol: I'm not surprised, I was more saying it for the benefit of Wacoso and BC :)

They SO know. Remember on the previous thread BC had a great saying:

FijiFan and power tools...greatness.

[Texas Golfer]

They disconnected the webcam.

I went up there at 8am this morning and boarded up the store with the help of Brandon and his crew. Took about an hour of sawing, hammering, and drilling. Then I moved all the merchandise to as high a point as I could and our MGR boxed up the small items. Turned off the electricity, took the registers, credit card machines, and locked it up. Went home, loaded up our belongings, had a bite to eat, said goodbye, and hit the road. Took HWY 6 all the way up to 290 and only 290 had bad traffic. Sugarland had some stop and go stuff, but mostly just people on their usual day.

Stopped in C/S and ate at Freebird's with BBL and had a Shiner toast to friends and safety. Texted WillThing until he gave in and decided to leave. Michael and Adrienne say they are staying, per WillThing. Please pray for them as well. I don't handle losing friends well and they are great to us all.

Arrived in Waco around 9pm, unloaded, sat down, and thought of what all can be, could be, and most likely will.

Now, I'm watching the surfcam and the waves are over the jetty on 37th, which is very rare. Also, a 51 foot wave was observed 180 miles offshore. If you think this is a small hurricane, well...

Love you guys and gals and appreciate all the prayers from each of you. Don't forget there are plenty more that need them on the coast.

I am so grateful that you and your family are safe. But why would Michael and Adrienne stick around. The part in the NWS report saying anyone who stayed would face certain death makes me very uncomfortable about that decision.

[The Banterer]

Not looking good for Galveston. Water level is basically even with the seawall now with the storm still quite a ways out.

[Bigolburlybear]

As I've told Kristen, I have her, I have our baby, we all have our health, we have our faith, we have our family, and we have our friends. All the rest is secondary.

It is a very sobering experience to know that something so large and powerful can (possibly) cause such destruction to your home, but we love it there. We live Galveston. You either get it or you leave. We get it. We work it. We support it. Gonna be hard for me to go back, if it hits, without breaking down and seeing the destruction of some great places that gave us great memories.

I can almost see Crazy Oaks floating off into the bay. I can see Gaido's full of water due to the storm surge. I can see our pavilion collapsing under the weight of water and wind. I can see East Beach's pavilion being wiped off the map. **** Deck being pushed back into the city. So many friends, so many lives, so much being affected.
Let me know when to be in Galveston for clean up. We'll stay too busy to think about it.

[Limnos]

If anyone can get in touch with Michael and Adrienne they should BEG them to get off the island. Now.

I hate hearing this.

[Limnos]

Let me know when to be in Galveston for clean up. We'll stay too busy to think about it.

What he said.

How's the transition Bobb?

[ChipOC]

I will happily go down to help.
Whoa.

Thanks for the updates for those of us stuck at work.

[Chief'sbear]

You say that like you are suprised! :w00t:

I mean, come on, you have Ryobi power tools!?!?!?!

:D

[Texas Golfer]

I think the Wolverines can muster up a pretty good size caravan to Galveston to help our family members.

[Bigolburlybear]

What he said.

How's the transition Bobb? Delayed till January unfortunately. 20k short.

[Wacoso]

Michael and Adrienne left and are in college station. Pete stayed. just dug in and wouldn't leave. Stubborn.

[KellerBear]

My family's prayers are with you and the wife, Wacoso...I know you need them right about now.

[Limnos]

I just talked to BBL on the phone. he is not going to make the drive up for the game tonight (it's the right call). The weather tomorrow will not allow for good travels up and down highway 6. We are expecting 50+mph winds, loads of rain and tornado watches all day. Y'all keep him in your thoughts during this hard time.

I think the Wolverines can muster up a pretty good size caravan to Galveston to help our family members.
You got that right.
Delayed till January unfortunately. 20k short.
I'm sorry to hear that. I know you will do great though.

Michael and Adrienne left and are in college station. Pete stayed. just dug in and wouldn't leave. Stubborn.
Good to hear about Michael and Adrienne, but I hate that Pete remained.

[atxtraveler]

I am in for the caravan. Let me know details.

[Texas Golfer]

Michael and Adrienne left and are in college station. Pete stayed. just dug in and wouldn't leave. Stubborn.

I'm so happy to hear that M & A changed their minds and decided to leave. Although I don't know why Pete would decided to stay, but I pray for his safety.

[KellerBear]

Is Pete on these boards? Are Michael and Adrienne?

[Wacoso]

Is Pete on these boards? Are Michael and Adrienne?

No, they're just friends in Galveston that the 'Vines know. When 'Vines are in town, we all hook up for the festivities.

[DONNIE D]

No, they're just friends in Galveston that the 'Vines know. When 'Vines are in town, we all hook up for the festivities.
When the Vines are in town, "We ARE the festivities" !!!

[BaylorBabe]

I'm glad that Michael and Adrienne left anyway. :(

[atxtraveler]

We now have an official GGR Hurricane Response Team thread for those of you who are interested in heading down and volunteering...

Hurricane Response (http://greengoldreport.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1067)

[BearChick]

Pete's a stubborn youknowwhat. That's why he stayed.

Steve LeBlanc, city manager, just estimated 40% of the population (about 22K) decided to stay. God only knows why.

[BearChick]

Four feet of water in the Strand already. Waves hitting Seawall are splashing ABOVE the light poles. West End is pretty much destroyed already according to city officials. City Manager said that destruction-wise, this will be the worst since the 1900 storm--worse than 1915, Carla, Alicia, etc. Storm is speeding up and now expected to make landfall near Bolivar around midnight as opposedto San Luis Pass at 2 or 3 am.

Just saw the depth of water at Moody Gardens near our house. Highly likely water is in or about to be in our house now.

[Alvination]

I can't imagine how that many people decided to stay there. Hopefully they'll be spared but it really doesn't look good.

[FIJIFan]

I agree Alvin...why would 22k people think that they would be OK living right at sea level when a hurricane hits?

[ChipOC]

Pete's a stubborn youknowwhat. That's why he stayed.

Steve LeBlanc, city manager, just estimated 40% of the population (about 22K) decided to stay. God only knows why.
Probably cause they don't trust the rest of them not to loot their stuff.

[Alvination]

I agree Alvin...why would 22k people think that they would be OK living right at sea level when a hurricane hits?

On KHOU a couple hours ago, this woman was interviewed with her 4 kids saying she "couldn't" leave because she had animals and kids and she didn't want to leave and come back to nothing.

Well guess what lady, you staying in the house won't make it not destroyed. I almost yelled at my tv for the kids' safety.

[atxtraveler]

On KHOU a couple hours ago, this woman was interviewed with her 4 kids saying she "couldn't" leave because she had animals and kids and she didn't want to leave and come back to nothing.

Well guess what lady, you staying in the house won't make it not destroyed. I almost yelled at my tv for the kids' safety.

Sometimes, you have to think Darwin was half right....

[ChipOC]

Sometimes, you have to think Darwin was half right....
He was dead on. So sad that lives will be lost senselessly.

[BearChick]

On KHOU a couple hours ago, this woman was interviewed with her 4 kids saying she "couldn't" leave because she had animals and kids and she didn't want to leave and come back to nothing.

Well guess what lady, you staying in the house won't make it not destroyed. I almost yelled at my tv for the kids' safety.

My mom saw that and did the same thing.

Yeah, lady, your house may be there but you and your kids may not be. Or your kids may be so traumatized by going through the storm that you'll be paying for therapy for years.

[Solan]

Sometimes, you have to think Darwin was half right....

He was more than half right. Though I suppose that's neither here nor there.

[BearChick]

XP from Wolverines:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

All power is now out in Galveston. Please specifically pray for my friend Leigh who is a reporter with the Galveston Daily News and is in the media center inside the San Luis hotel. She is blogging about it on Twitter. www.twitter.com/leighjones

[HappyRebel]

Wow, BC..that has to be horrible for her....

[nein51]

Wow, BC..that has to be horrible for her....
The St Louis has a number of really high up floors, I cannot imagine the water will get that high. If it does we will have more problems. As in, Houston may be completely flooded. I think it would HAVE to get 80+ feet up to engulf that hotel.

[Texas Golfer]

Pete's a stubborn youknowwhat. That's why he stayed.

Steve LeBlanc, city manager, just estimated 40% of the population (about 22K) decided to stay. God only knows why.

I have no idea why anyone would challenge Ike. When, for the first time that I can recall, the NWS says those who remain will face certain death, it's a stupid move. Or, in this case, stupid non-move.

[Texas Golfer]

Probably cause they don't trust the rest of them not to loot their stuff.

Let the looters have what they want. What the looters don't take, Ike will.

[DONNIE D]

Man, it is a mess down there. When daylight comes, I'm not sure I want to see it.

[DONNIE D]

BC, check in when you can please. Wacoso, if you hear from her let us know.

Thanks.

[golsalax]

I sent a text message to my mom who is still in Bacliff, and she says she is okay although no power which is expected.

I just sent a text message to my dad to find out how my grandmother and my aunt are doing in Broaddus in East Texas.

I woke up and saw some winds outside right now and we are getting a little bit of rain.

[HappyRebel]

I sent a text message to my mom who is still in Bacliff, and she says she is okay although no power which is expected.

I just sent a text message to my dad to find out how my grandmother and my aunt are doing in Broaddus in East Texas.

I woke up and saw some winds outside right now and we are getting a little bit of rain.

I am glad they are doing good....I bet that is a relief....Good morning Gofer...

[nein51]

Donnie, BC says she and Pookie are ok. They dont have power at her parent's house right now but they are safe. Wacoso is at his parents house and judging by how late it was when I got home I would imagine he is still sleeping.

[BaylorPhillie]

I just got a text from BC and Pooky too. They should hear by 12:30 when they can get back on the island to see how much damage they had.

[DONNIE D]

Thanks nein.

Just saw that Brennan's in Houston burned down last night.

[golsalax]

I am not sure if you would be able to see 39 photos that I looked through from the Houston Chronicle site.

http://www.chron.com/news/photogallery/Editors_Top_Pictures.html

[golsalax]

Saw a brief message from my friend who lives in Pearland, and she wrote that she and her husband went outside to look around. She saw mostly broken limbs, and they are, of course, without power. She was using her mobile phone to send out messages.

[HappyRebel]

that sculptor on the sea wall is so haunting..especially with the water over it like that...

[BaylorPhillie]

Weather Channel (Non-HD) said that all of Houston that has above-ground power lines is out of power... estimated at 4 million.

I'm glad that my brother and his wife finally left Houston yesterday morning-- she decided 2 days without entertainment was too much.

[nein51]

Thanks nein.

Just saw that Brennan's in Houston burned down last night.

Yessir, appears that way.

[golsalax]

Weather Channel (Non-HD) said that all of Houston that has above-ground power lines is out of power... estimated at 4 million.

I'm glad that my brother and his wife finally left Houston yesterday morning-- she decided 2 days without entertainment was too much.

BP, love that quote- "Weather Channel (Non-HD)". I have that non-HD TWC, too, and I briefly watched it this morning. My son is now playing his XBOX games.

All the entertainment I can get is right here... GGR rocks!!! (that should bring smiles to Doug and Atx)

[DONNIE D]

Yessir, appears that way.Sad huh?

[BaylorPhillie]

BP, love that quote- "Weather Channel (Non-HD)". I have that non-HD TWC, too, and I briefly watched it this morning. My son is now playing his XBOX games.

All the entertainment I can get is right here... GGR rocks!!! (that should bring smiles to Doug and Atx)

Thanks. :)

[nein51]

I think it was built in the 1960s. The one in NOLA was damaged 2 years ago. It appears there are a number of fires.

Its raining here but not too terrible.

[BaylorPhillie]

WC(NHD) said it opened in 1967...

[nein51]

We are likely to see more flooding, especially in Indiana and Illinois. Going to be a rough week in the US.

[Limnos]

F3 tornado (x2) are on the ground in Louisiana.

Ike is still a Category 1 hurricane inland.

[golsalax]

Like what nein just said, it is raining a bit in Hewitt, but nothing earthshaking. Though I have pesky allergies acting up, I just went outside mainly to enjoy those nice cool breezes.

[golsalax]

F3 tornado (x2) are on the ground in Louisiana.

Ike is still a Category 1 hurricane inland.

Do you know what part of Louisiana got that F3 tornado?

[Limnos]

I heard one report near the City of Elizabeth? I did not hear the name fo the Parrish for the other one.

All of Houston (up to 4million) is without power.

[Greggor25]

Just watched the news and looks like Lake Jackson is getting better. Man two million people around Houston and Gavelston without power. Our prayers go out to our fellow Wolverines. Everybody have faith and please be safe.

[nein51]

The video I am seeing is not nearly as bad as I expected, even at some places I expected to see water over the top of houses. I think as bad as this is it isnt nearly as bad as it could have been.

[golsalax]

I read somewhere that parts of Kemah Boardwalk is submerged.

[nein51]

I read somewhere that parts of Kemah Boardwalk is submerged.

I dont see how that is possible. The girl in Clearlake is reporting from the Hilton parking lot and Nasa Rd 1 is open. From where she is reporting Kemah is no more than .5 miles across the lake. I suppose the very lower portion where nothing is located could be but from what I can see it cant be any portion of the boardwalk where people go.

[golsalax]

I dont see how that is possible. The girl in Clearlake is reporting from the Hilton parking lot and Nasa Rd 1 is open. From where she is reporting Kemah is no more than .5 miles across the lake. I suppose the very lower portion where nothing is located could be but from what I can see it cant be any portion of the boardwalk where people go.

That was why I had to ask because that part came from a Yahoo news article.

There is a link in an early post that I put up in this thread, and that link is from the Houston Chronicle. They had this picture of two people walking waist-deep in water in Kemah. (picture #21)

[nein51]

I suppose it could be, they just showed the area and there is flooding around the hotel. Doesnt look deeper than 3' (not that I want 3' of water in my house) but I wonder where they were on Kemah. Perhaps they were in one of the low lying parking lots. I would think Clearlake would be just a giant lake right now if the boardwalk were 3 foot deep.

[golsalax]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ike

South of Galveston, authorities said 67-year-old Ray Wilkinson was the only residents who didn't evacuate from Surfside Beach, population 800. He was drunk and waving when authorities reached him on Saturday morning.

"He kinda drank his way through the night," Mayor Larry Davison said.

[golsalax]

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080913/capt.d8dccee58d8840f097849cf462d19b1b.aptopix_ike_ texas_txff103.jpg

The picture above shows a lot of debris on HWY 146 in Seabrook, TX.

[golsalax]

Kemah Lighthouse District.

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080913/capt.7e78b5ad196b4a3d8df6587790a3af37.ike_texas_tx ms204.jpg

[Limnos]

Is this Murdoch's?

http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/photoessay_5102_images/0913081058_M_091308_ike03.jpg



Here is Emory's. :(

http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/photoessay_5102_images/0913080657_M_091208_ike_floodedtown.jpg

[nein51]

I think it used to be.

[Texas Golfer]

As someone who visits Galveston frequently, this is very sad for me. I can only imagine the feelings of those who live there.

[DONNIE D]

Makes me sick just to look at it.

[BearChick]

Kemah is toast, Nein.

[BearChick]

Katy had the least debris of anywhere in the city so Centerpoint was able to restore our power first and it just came on 30 min ago. We're thrilled.

We made it through fine. No word on when we can go back to Galveston yet. More when Pooky isn't squirming in my lap.

[nein51]

Yeah, saw pictures, just odd since the other side of the lake isnt really that bad.

I did see a picture of the Pavilion at the beach, it is still standing and "appears" to be in good shape but the picture isnt super close up. I wouldnt be shocked if the inventory is ok, though I am 100% sure you would rather the house be ok. No pictures from that side of the island yet that I have seen.

[nein51]

Here's is what I have. At least I *think* that is the pavilion.

[Texas Golfer]

Here's is what I have. At least I *think* that is the pavilion.

It certainly looks like the pavillion. That's a good sign, if it is. Maybe, with the surge, some water may be on the floor but I'm optimisic.

[nein51]

We will not be eating at the Hooters any time soon.

[BaylorBabe]

wait, that yellow building in the corner of the pic, is that where oso's is?

[nein51]

wait, that yellow building in the corner of the pic, is that where oso's is?
Yes, believe so. I have an update that the stairs were washed away. However, if the picture is right then at least some of the inventory may be salvageable.

No pictures of the west end yet but I hear it is not good. We may have a lot of rebuilding to help with.

[BearChick]

Here's is what I have. At least I *think* that is the pavilion.

Oh my gosh, that's awesome!!! We have been told by our friend who is a police officer that the bottom of the building (mostly storage area for beach patrol, chair vendor, park board, etc) is completely destroyed--which means our A/C units are likely gone too, and that the wooden stairs on the front of the building are gone too. But this is the best picture I've seen all day.

My friend's blog (reporter for the Daily News) says there's major roof damage to the Gaido's hotel. Please pray for our friend Michael who will have to deal with that.

[BearChick]

We did have much of the inventory in a pretty secure place so this gives me hope that some of our store is left. Seriously, about in tears--in a good way--right now.

[HappyRebel]

We did have much of the inventory in a pretty secure place so this gives me hope that some of our store is left. Seriously, about in tears--in a good way--right now.

That is great...at a time like this...the little things tend to stir up emotions...it is good to see your almost in tears in a good way...Lets hope this is a good sign...

[Limnos]

There was a US Coast Guard flyover video today that was just shown on CNN. The Ocean Oso's pavilion was clearly standing in the video. Water all the way around it but standing.

That hotel on the sand didn't look so good.

[Wacoso]

I believe you can see the waterline on building in the yellow. It is a bit dirty up there. I know I can make out the waterline on the second row of steps.

[DONNIE D]

Good news guys. Lets keep our fingers crossed

[nein51]

I am glad I could provide it though I have to admit that I stole it. Nonetheless, the building is standing and that is a plus.

[BaylorPhillie]

Definitely.

Where did you get the pics?

[nein51]

I searched blogs and newswires and any place else I could search.

[nein51]

Here is some raw footage.

http://www.weather.com/multimedia/videoplayer.html?clip=12101&from=hp_video_1

[Texas Golfer]

Great job, Nein.

[nein51]

Great job, Nein.

Negative, credit goes to mrs nein on that find. I just had it open and she didnt.

[Texas Golfer]

Negative, credit goes to mrs nein on that find. I just had it open and she didnt.

Great job, Mrs Nein.

[DONNIE D]

Yea, I know I'd sit on a pier out in the Gulf. You, betcha!!!

[Wacoso]

We will not be eating at the Hooters any time soon.

That isn't there any longer. I mean, vacant piers. Brandon and I are in a world of hurt for our rainy day wings fixes.

[nein51]

That isn't there any longer. I mean, vacant piers. Brandon and I are in a world of hurt for our rainy day wings fixes.
When you have lemons make lemonade...Wacoso's Wings!!

[atxtraveler]

WWW.Galveston

Wacoso's Wild Wings

[Wacoso]

Don't get your hopes up, but KHOU blog is saying Campeche is high and dry.

[nein51]

God. Loves. Mrs Pacman.

That is the only possible explanation!! Woot!

[nein51]

Wait, I have an alternate theory, God loves smoked meat. I believe this will require the sacrifice of a goat. Someone call LIQR. We are cutting that sumb(you know) with a chainsaw (because I am not missing the chance to bust out the chainsaw!).

[wantsBU2win]

I'm so happy to hear Ocean Oso's survived! Prayers were answered! :)

[golsalax]

Amen. I agree that it is really a great sight to look at the still standing Ocean Oso's!!! I mean the pavilion.

The slight good news is that the feared storm sturge which would have been 20 feet didn't materialize, for it was actually around 13.5 feet.

I will keep you all posted as to how things are at my mom's house once she can get more power to her cell phone. I am sure electricity is still out though.

[Limnos]

W or BC- do you know this rescuer? The caption said he was looking in the west end.

http://www.khou.com/images/slideshow/ike_aftermath/images/378.jpg

[Limnos]

Here is the Hooters in Galveston.

http://www.khou.com/images/slideshow/ike_aftermath/images/484.jpg

[Wacoso]

W or BC- do you know this rescuer? The caption said he was looking in the west end.

http://www.khou.com/images/slideshow/ike_aftermath/images/378.jpg

Hell yeah, that's Peter Davis, head of the lifeguards. I've been to his house for partys. Great guy. Lives down on Sunny Beach and I'm sure sent his wife and daughter away.

[Limnos]

Glad that he is safe. I thought it was a great picture.

[Wacoso]

http://www.khou.com/topstories/stories/M_IMAGE.11beb4b9125.93.88.fa.d0.738aff67.jpg

This is Migues that I hang out with on the right. His baby daughter and our baby daughter hang out and have play dates.

[HillCountryBEAR]

WWW.Galveston

Wacoso's Wild Wings

How about "Wacoso's Wild Women and Wings"????

Ok, now that we've got the name for W's wings endeavor finalized,......how are we going to dress the waitresses!?!?!?!? Do we want to focus on short shorts or tight/low cut tops?? Color schemes?.....Green and Gold!

Let's go with fries like from Pluckers or CFA!
Gotta have spicy ranch sauce as an option on the wings!
Crushed ice! No cubes!

[Texas Golfer]

Wacoso, has anyone heard from Pete or his wife?

[Wacoso]

Wacoso, has anyone heard from Pete or his wife?

Yes, Pete and Andrea made it through.

[Texas Golfer]

Yes, Pete and Andrea made it through.

Great news, W!

[BearChick]

Wow! That is Peter and Migues. Awesome. Every time I'd see a Beach Patrol truck on TV I'd wonder who was driving it, but I could never tell.

[DONNIE D]

BC, any idea when you might head back to the island? Saw a news report this morning with lots of cars driving around.

[BearChick]

This is out on the way to our house:

http://www.khou.com/perl/common/slideshow/sspop.pl?recid=12016&nextimage=30

[BearChick]

BC, any idea when you might head back to the island? Saw a news report this morning with lots of cars driving around.

The Island is closed. Only people there are first responders, media, and those who stayed (estimated 40% of the Island's population). We will not be allowed back in until they say we can come back, and there's no indication of when that will be. Galveston Daily News is reporting officials fear there's damage to the causeway, which may delay opening of the Island even further. I will not be going until it is safe to go.

[DONNIE D]

The clip I saw looked like where TG and I had breakfast (the diner), out that way. I'm not that sure, but there were power line dangleling everwhere.

[BearChick]

Wacoso, check the last slide in this slide show from the Chron.

http://www.chron.com/news/photogallery/Galveston_suffers_direct_hit_from_Hurricane_Ike.ht ml (http://www.chron.com/news/photogallery/Galveston_suffers_direct_hit_from_Hurricane_Ike.ht ml)

[atxtraveler]

Wacoso, check the last slide in this slide show from the Chron.

http://www.chron.com/news/photogallery/Galveston_suffers_direct_hit_from_Hurricane_Ike.ht ml (http://www.chron.com/news/photogallery/Galveston_suffers_direct_hit_from_Hurricane_Ike.ht ml)


So you know Crystal?

[BearChick]

LOL, no. But we do know the folks who own the building behind her. Son of the owner is a good friend and we get all our spices from there. And they make a mean muffuletta.

[DONNIE D]

BC, do you just buy the bread, or the sammich?

[GigaBear]

INCREDIBLE, guys! So glad to hear that on the surface, everything appears to be ok!!! Wahooooo!!!!!!!

[DONNIE D]

I saw the "Joes Crab Shack" sign laying up against something. I guess those Fish Markets are gone. Such a neat area.

[golsalax]

Someone on the KHOU Forums mentioned Transtar Houston, and I saw those two maps: (the first link is Virtual Earth; the second link is traditional Transtar map where you can click on a camera):

http://traffic.houstontranstar.org/layers/layers_ve.html

http://traffic.houstontranstar.org/layers/layers.aspx

[nein51]

Here are some downtown Houston pics. Working on getting similar from the island. I asked if we could get some of the Cove and the Pavilion.

http://s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa222/gopdogg/Hurricane%20Ike%20-%202008/?start=60

[wantsBU2win]

any more updates on Gaidos?

and how did Crazy Oaks fare? Is it completely gone?

[BearChick]

Wants, we won't know anything about really any place until we can get back there.

[HappyRebel]

Waiting seems like forever...at least you have pookie to help keep you busy...